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Got any proof? He said recently that he offered the fight in late 2014 and it got rejected? I've seen article about the offer around the time of the Lemieux fight but that's not the only offer. He made one in late 2014. He made the offer before the Lemieux fight when GGG already had a fight, okay, but if they really wanted it they could've continued negotiating and made it the fight after instead.
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yeah floyd ducked GGG too... ive read that several places from some of the same posters saying this weight division excuse... Andre ward would beat the sht out of GGGee IMO doesnt mean Gggee isnt good thoComment
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What about your proof? Where are those earlier offers you are talking about?
He was pressed why he didn't make earlier offers. He lied and made a mistake of mentioning some specific date. Fans and the media fact checked and the date didn't tally with GGG's fight schedules on and off the ring. He never mentioned it again.
Why don't you ask him when those so-called offers were made?Comment
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Why didn't you mention the one offered by HBO in which Ward said no?
Golovkin: "Hey Ward, wake up. Why are you talking trash about others? Speak for yourself. If you are trying to make a name for yourself by mentioning my name and building your fight by talking about me, then be a man and tell the truth," Golovkin told BoxingScene.com/Allboxing.ru.
"At our meeting with HBO they asked both of us whether or not we are ready to fight. You remember our answers........I said 'yes' and you said 'no.' Something about your shoulder or promoter. I am not interested in your reasons, I only heard your 'no.' But you remember HBO made it clear back then that this fight needs a lot of time to build up. Then why are you talking **** about excuses?"
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Desperation was too strong a word but Ward had lost a lot of relevancy after his hiatus. Throwing GGG's name out there was IMO to say hey I'm still out here. Also, some believe it was to throw cover for Cotto. Not sure about that one. I don't think Ward was ever serious about the fight.
All that said I'm not claiming anyone ducked anyone.Comment
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LOL that's basically Golovkin trying to make himself look good. He's referring to a HBO meeting where they were asked if they were ready to fight. If Ward's shoulder was injured at that point, or he was dealing with promotional issues which prevent you from fighting anyone, of course he wouldn't have been ready. Since he says nothing about when this meeting happened there's no proof of if Ward was injured or not at the time, and nowhere in there does he even mention making an offer to Ward. He actually says "HBO wants the fight to build" which sounds like an excuse. He never made Ward an offer, and whenever he gets asked about him he responds with "I don't want to talk about him". Imagine if Ward said that, LOL
Bottom line - Ward offered him a fight twice and he rejected it both times. After saying he would take the fight, that's ducking however you look at it.
I'm actually tired of this thread at this point. All the relevant points have been made, and all the issues have been debated. All the facts are out there, and i've come to the conclusion that he gets a pass because he has fans, a trainer, a network and a promoter who get behind him like crazy, highlight all the positives and hide all the negatives
He's a very good fighter, knocks a lot of people out, but don't put him as p4p#2 and say he's one of the best MW's ever until he beats someone who's on the elite level and who's either the same size or bigger.
Last edited by JK1700; 07-24-2017, 05:55 PM.Comment
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