Greater fighter: Roy Jones Jr or Floyd Mayweather?

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  • robertzimmerman
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    #181
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    "Shell" but still, one of the best in the world. That's just a fact.

    Mayweather was a shell of his former self he was still the best in the world just like Manny arguably was.

    These are facts.

    Marquez knocked him out but he still looked stellar after. Boxers get knocked out. Some bounce back some don't. He did.
    I respect your opinion. But I think beating a bigger fighter in Oscar, trumps beating a smaller one in Manny. Floyd just kept him on the end of his jab with his huge reach advantage. But he couldn't do that against Oscar. I think Oscar gave him a much bigger challenge, which is why I rate it as a better win.

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      #182
      Originally posted by robertzimmerman
      I respect your opinion. But I think beating a bigger fighter in Oscar, trumps beating a smaller one in Manny. Floyd just kept him on the end of his jab with his huge reach advantage. But he couldn't do that against Oscar. I think Oscar gave him a much bigger challenge, which is why I rate it as a better win.
      Harder fight doesn't always equal better win.

      Maidana was a harder fight for Floyd but his win over Corrales was way better. Could go on all day in that regard.

      2015 Pacauaio is way better than 2007 Oscar

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        #183
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        "Shell" but still, one of the best in the world. That's just a fact.

        Mayweather was a shell of his former self he was still the best in the world just like Manny arguably was.

        These are facts.

        Marquez knocked him out but he still looked stellar after. Boxers get knocked out. Some bounce back some don't. He did.
        whats up with all these greybeards being faded, and getting high praise for a victory as if both guys were prime....they don't get no style points for that...

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          #184
          Originally posted by djtmal
          so thats the excuse....
          None needed. The excuse is "they were old even though Floyd was older so the win isn't that good regardless of their standing because only Floyd's standing counts."

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            #185
            Originally posted by djtmal
            whats up with all these greybeards being faded, and getting high praise for a victory as if both guys were prime....they don't get no style points for that...
            Didn't say that.

            I said he get's credit for beating on the best fighters in the world P4P which he was.

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              #186
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              Didn't say that.

              I said he get's credit for beating on the best fighters in the world P4P which he was.
              ortiz, guerrero, maidana 2x, and berto were the best fighters in the world p4p?

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                #187
                Originally posted by djtmal
                ortiz, guerrero, maidana 2x, and berto were the best fighters in the world p4p?
                Who said that?

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  None needed. The excuse is "they were old even though Floyd was older so the win isn't that good regardless of their standing because only Floyd's standing counts."
                  how about, he beat this atg guy in his prime and thats it...he beat this hof guy in his prime and thats it...if you can't say that, you ain't saying nothing....

                  ...and with that said...hatton, corrales, and alvarez remain his best wins, and none of those guys are close to being all time greats...

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                    #189
                    Originally posted by djtmal
                    how about, he beat this atg guy in his prime and thats it...he beat this hof guy in his prime and thats it...if you can't say that, you ain't saying nothing....

                    ...and with that said...hatton, corrales, and alvarez remain his best wins, and none of those guys are close to being all time greats...
                    That's your opinion. You're entitled to it and in my opinion you're wrong.

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      Who said that?
                      didn't you just say floyd was beating some of the best fighters in the world p4p?

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