Greater fighter: Roy Jones Jr or Floyd Mayweather?

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  • djtmal
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    #131
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    And that's it according to you. Pretty nice win. Could be huge in a couple months.

    I'd say all of Floyd's wins over 35 are impressive, minus Guerrero.
    yes if canelo beats ggg it would a feather in floyd's cap...

    everything else was ok

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      #132
      Originally posted by djtmal
      yes if canelo beats ggg it would a feather in floyd's cap...

      everything else was ok
      Pacquiao win was huge. Canelo was huge. Others were solid victories.

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        #133
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        then why do media/historians/journalists voting in the polls I showed and others have Floyd ahead of roy, bhop and Manny?

        The voters are ethical, unbiased, have different racial and ethnic backgrounds. Ring is owned by ODH who despises Floyd.

        Can you explain why Floyd is so far ahead of these men in these polls?
        I'm supposed to take your woird for it am I?
        I'm sure some think fgkoyd is greater and I'm not sure they arent biased. Or they're not thinking clearly and take too serious rjjj loses past prime or takes PACs ko loss too serious. If younthink PAC was greater than Floyd before ko loss to jmm the loss to jmm shouldn't change that. If after rjj beat ruz you thought rjj was top 5pfp why change thast opinion after loss to levbedev or JC or loss too BH?
        More boxing fans think pac is greater in world. That counts as much to me if not more so. Why do most people in world think pacs better? Its becasuyse Floyd is known for bgetting things in his favoiur, cherry picked, fighting past prime fighters and not besting who he said he could, not taking risks and thought about zero too much which influenced every decision he ever made. And all the other negative thin GS he's associated with.
        Why should he be rewarded for that?
        Last edited by hugh grant; 07-05-2017, 04:36 PM.

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          #134
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Pacquiao win was huge. Canelo was huge. Others were solid victories.
          pac, cotto, & shane were too faded for me...

          guerrero, maidana 2x, ortiz, marquez & berto...too routine

          none of these guys are prime atg's...

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            #135
            Floyd has the better resume and accomplishments


            But Roy was a better fighter, h2h, p4p, however you wanna compare them, Roy is better

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              #136
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              And that's it according to you. Pretty nice win. Could be huge in a couple months.

              I'd say all of Floyd's wins over 35 are impressive, minus Guerrero.
              Originally posted by djtmal
              pac, cotto, & shane were too faded for me...

              guerrero, maidana 2x, ortiz, marquez & berto...too routine

              none of these guys are prime atg's...
              I hear you. Would agree except Floyd was older and, compared to the prime version, pretty faded as well. Still rated high, like those first three names you mentioned.

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              • jas
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                #137
                Better? Jones Jr

                Greater ? Floyd

                Floyd's resume is more solid than Jones'

                Yea Floyd didn't fight a single hall of famer in their prime but he fought a lot of hall of famers - Judah, Mosley, delahoya, Manny, hatton, gatti, cotto,Marquez, can probably add Castillo and corrales to the list

                Jones beat Hopkins with a broken hand and toney which are 2 great wins. If he had fought Hopkins again and calzaghe earlier and beat them then you could argue he's greater

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by robertzimmerman
                  Everyone's circumstances are different, and there's no way you can do direct comparisons between 2 guys from different weight classes, who peaked at different times. It's impossible.

                  Manny has won titles in twice as many weight classes as what Roy did. But does that automatically mean that he accomplished more than Roy?

                  You can't just debate statistics.
                  No you can't just debate stats, but becoming undisputed champ in a division should account for something when comparing accomplishments between fighters

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                    #139
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Agreed. However, the wins Mayweather had out of prime deserve major kudos.
                    Mayweathers win against Canelo does; absolutely.

                    I'm split when comparing Floyd's wins over other fighters like Cotto, Mosley and DLH though.

                    I like the Marquez win as well because of the fact that he KOd Pac not too long after. Very solid win that no one can take from Floyd. The extra 2 lbs on the scale didnt bother me.

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                      #140
                      Everybody..Get on your feet.. right now... For the best pound for pound fighter in the world...Roy Jones Jr....Whoever don't agree... ya know what? I guess - y'all must've forgot! ...

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