Greater fighter: Roy Jones Jr or Floyd Mayweather?

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  • Chollo Vista
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    #31
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Mayweather busted and bruised in his prime against Emmanuel Augustus?

    I don't recall prime Roy Jones having those problems

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      #32
      Originally posted by Chollo Vista
      Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Mayweather busted and bruised in his prime against Emmanuel Augustus?

      I don't recall prime Roy Jones having those problems
      Floyd out of prime was never knocked out like roy neither so....

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        #33
        Roy in his physical prime was the most freakishly athletic boxer I have ever seen.

        But Floyd came from a boxing family and was more well schooled in the proper fundamentals of the sport.

        In my opinion.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Chollo Vista
          I'm just asking who was the greater fighter. How you quantify that is on you.

          But to respond to your above post, one can make the argument that Roy didn't age as gracefully as Floyd did because Roy took on all comers in his prime and pursued greatness. I'm sure you'll have your fair share if people who will say Roy ducked Collins, Eubank, Benn, etc, when the reality was Roy beat the guys that beat the aforementioned fighters and it wasn't even close.

          Let's take someone like Steve Collins for example. Why would Roy fight Collins when he opted to beat the 2 guys (Johnson/McCallum) that beats Collins. Its almost like if Floyd opted not to fight Margarito because he wanted to go after Paul Williams.

          Or it's like, Floyd opted not to fight Cotto in 2008 because he wanted to go after Margarito.
          Yeah, Roy didn't avoid any of those guys.

          Most people don't realise what was happening behind the scenes at the time.

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            #35
            Originally posted by MoneyMayFan
            Lmao hopkins wasnt prime
            I always see this argument and can never figure out why people say Hopkins wasn't prime. Was it because he didnt have the notoriety at that time and the public didnt know him?

            Hopkins didn't lose for another 12 years after Roy beat him.

            Has anyone ever beaten Prime Hopkins? Was he over the hill when Taylor beat him? Was he too young when Clinton Michell beat him? Was he not old enough when RJJ beat him?

            Fact is, he was just right when Jones beat him. He was experienced enough to have not lost in 5 years and been on a 20 fight win streak.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Chollo Vista
              He wasn't against DLH and Castillo. Prime RJJ never had that problem. It wasn't until after he kicked ass from 154 to heavyweight did he remotely experience what Floyd did against Castillo/DLH in his prime

              Also RJJ never retired at the hottest times in his weight class.
              I see you unblocked me.

              Show me a pic of Floyd sleeping on his back
              You can't

              RJJ got KTFO by Glenn Johnson....Sven Ottke whipped Glenn

              Floyd didn't retire at the hottest time of anything

              Who made the division so hot?

              Cotto and Margarito??..lol

              Floyd's work ethic and defensive skills are the reason you don't see pics of him sleeping in the ring

              Have another

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                #37
                Originally posted by MoneyMayFan
                Floyd out of prime was never knocked out like roy neither so....

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Chollo Vista
                  I always see this argument and can never figure out why people say Hopkins wasn't prime. Was it because he didnt have the notoriety at that time and the public didnt know him?

                  Hopkins didn't lose for another 12 years after Roy beat him.

                  Has anyone ever beaten Prime Hopkins? Was he over the hill when Taylor beat him? Was he too young when Clinton Michell beat him? Was he not old enough when RJJ beat him?

                  Fact is, he was just right when Jones beat him. He was experienced enough to have not lost in 5 years and been on a 20 fight win streak.
                  So canelo was prime when floyd beat him then. He went on to become the middleweight champ and is undefeated since and if he beats ggg???? Hmmm

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by MoneyMayFan
                    Floyd out of prime was never knocked out like roy neither so....
                    True. But Floyd has also had several retirements during the most opportune times in his weight class. Could Marg, Williams, Cotto, or Pac have beaten or stopped Floyd between 2008-2009? We don't know because he retired so we can only speculate

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Kigali
                      I see you unblocked me.

                      Show me a pic of Floyd sleeping on his back
                      You can't

                      RJJ got KTFO by Glenn Johnson....Sven Ottke whipped Glenn

                      Floyd didn't retire at the hottest time of anything

                      Who made the division so hot?

                      Cotto and Margarito??..lol

                      Floyd's work ethic and defensive skills are the reason you don't see pics of him sleeping in the ring

                      Have another
                      Look how emotional this guy is. Take a timeout

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