Greater fighter: Roy Jones Jr or Floyd Mayweather?

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #101
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    And that's the same problem I have. When a guy like Crawford or Loma holds that title and are recognized as champions with it. Luckily Crawford has other belts. Hopefully Loma will soon. It's a joke of a trinket that's been bought and paid for for years. Not saying the other belts are above corruption but at least they have some legitimacy/history.
    I forgot about Loma. Inoue and Ward as well. WBO is bogus but when 4 of the top 6 or 7 best p4p fighters are WBO champs the belt gets legitimized.

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      #102
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      Your reading comprehension is very poor. I was talking about the reason posters that are Manny fans are voting for Roy.

      Not one unbiased, objective person thinks Manny is greater than floyd. Frankly, I don't see why it bothers Manny fans that he is the 2nd best of the era behind Floyd. I think that is great accomplishment.
      re.
      Stop making excuses and take responsibility for your actions.
      This is about rjj and Floyd. Don't obsess over pac.
      PAC is greater than Floyd the whole world will tell you that. If rjj is of this era the Floyd is 4th behind rjj and BH.
      Last edited by hugh grant; 07-05-2017, 07:59 AM.

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        #103
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        Your reading comprehension is very poor. I was talking about the reason posters that are Manny fans are voting for Roy.

        Not one unbiased, objective person thinks Manny is greater than floyd. Frankly, I don't see why it bothers Manny fans that he is the 2nd best of the era behind Floyd. I think that is great accomplishment.

        Your opinion doesn't matter. Nothing you post matters or has any credibility because Floyd did what you posted he needed to be an ATG. When he did, you deleted the post and pretended you never posted it.

        Lucky for us others posters saved the post in their signature.
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        Stop making excuses and take responsibility for your actions.
        This is about rjj and Floyd. Don't obsess over pac.
        PAC is greater than Floyd the whole world will tell you that.
        I answered the question. I said Floyd. I then gave reasons why Manny fans were voting for Roy.

        Your opinion doesn't matter. Nothing you post matters or has any credibility because Floyd did what you posted he needed to be an ATG. When he did, you deleted the post and lied and said you never posted it.

        Lucky for us others posters saved the post in their signature.

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        • hugh grant
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          #104
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          I answered the question. I said Floyd. I then gave reasons why Manny fans were voting for Roy.

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          You soiund paranoid but no proof.
          Most people will have rjj above Floyd for the reasons I've mentioned.
          For Floyd it was all about zero at any cost. Floyd is behind rjj and BH. There's nothing wrong being fourth best of era. Many think Floyd had potential to be best. But hevwas too cautious
          Last edited by hugh grant; 07-05-2017, 08:30 AM.

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            #105
            I hated Roy Jones for his showboating. Loved it when Calzaghe made him look like a clown. (Thanks Youtube!)
            Now I realized it's just for shows and he turned out to be a perfect gentleman.
            I also find myself liking Broner regardless of his personal issues outside the ring.
            His showboating and trashing of his opponents livens up the fight.
            Not to mention a great way to attract fans.
            We all wish boring fighters do the same thing so they don't have to beg for fights. Lara, Rigo, etc.

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              #106
              Originally posted by hugh grant
              You soiund paranoid but no proof.
              Most people will have rjj above Floyd for the reasons I've mentioned.
              For Floyd it was all about zero at any cost. Floyd is behind rjj and BH. There's nothing wrong being fourth best of era. Many think Floyd had potential to be best. But hevwas too cautious
              Nothing you post has any validity or credibility. It doesn't matter to me what your opinion is. You are a conformed liar with a clear bias.

              If you think Floyd is 4th best just shows what I said above is true.

              Talk about anything boxing related here. Where the boxing discussion is always Non Stop!


              In the thread above, from 2014, Floyd (#12) finished ahead of Roy (#17) and Bhop (#19) on the ranking of the Greatest fighters since WWII. Manny didn't make the top 20.

              Now please go back to lying and deleting posts. It's the only thing you bring to the forum.
              Last edited by The Big Dunn; 07-05-2017, 08:40 AM.

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                #107
                they are both great, debating who is greater will only lead to a ****** argument... have at it guys

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                  #108
                  Floyd always looked for some advantage outside of the ring and has 3 questionable decisions.
                  He always had KB to bail him out.

                  He went with Mosley when Mosley had two back to back camps and Mosley was tired after the 2nd round.
                  big gloves, etc.

                  Roy was a monster and no one could touch him in his prime, no one.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                    If you think Floyd is 4th best just shows what I said above is true.

                    Talk about anything boxing related here. Where the boxing discussion is always Non Stop!


                    In the thread above, from 2014, Floyd (#12) finished ahead of Roy (#17) and Bhop (#19) on the ranking of the Greatest fighters since WWII. Manny didn't make the top 20.

                    um.
                    Floyd had potential to be best of era.
                    If he beat half of those people he claimed he could beat he'd have a shout. If he beat GGG, Sergio Martinez, margarito, Paul Williams etc etc
                    But too many common opponents with PAC and PAC doing better. Floyd needed to do things that separate him from chasing pack and he wasn't prepared to go that extra mile or yard in Floyd's case

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      Your reading comprehension is very poor. I was talking about the reason posters that are Manny fans are voting for Roy.

                      Not one unbiased, objective person thinks Manny is greater than floyd. Frankly, I don't see why it bothers Manny fans that he is the 2nd best of the era behind Floyd. I think that is great accomplishment.

                      Your opinion doesn't matter. Nothing you post matters or has any credibility because Floyd did what you posted he needed to be an ATG. When he did, you deleted the post and pretended you never posted it.

                      Lucky for us others posters saved the post in their signature.
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      Stop making excuses and take responsibility for your actions.
                      This is about rjj and Floyd. Don't obsess over pac.
                      PAC is greater than Floyd the whole world will tell you that. If rjj is of this era the Floyd is 4th behind rjj and BH.
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      Nothing you post has any validity or credibility. It doesn't matter to me what your opinion is. You are a conformed liar with a clear bias.

                      If you think Floyd is 4th best just shows what I said above is true.

                      Talk about anything boxing related here. Where the boxing discussion is always Non Stop!


                      In the thread above, from 2014, Floyd (#12) finished ahead of Roy (#17) and Bhop (#19) on the ranking of the Greatest fighters since WWII. Manny didn't make the top 20.

                      Now please go back to lying and deleting posts. It's the only thing you bring to the forum.
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      Floyd had potential to be best of era.
                      If he beat half of those people he claimed he could beat he'd have a shout. If he beat GGG, Sergio Martinez, margarito, Paul Williams etc etc
                      But too many common opponents with PAC and PAC doing better. Floyd needed to do things that separate him from chasing pack and he wasn't prepared to go that extra mile or yard in Floyd's case
                      According to Ring he is the best of his era. In that thread there is another poll from 2014 that had Floyd #19 ATG and Manny 22nd and that was before Floyd defeated Manny. That is good enough for me.

                      He beat ODH, Hatton and Shane 1st. He beat Cotto without a CW. He beat JMM without controversy. To top it off, he easily beat Manny by a wide margin.

                      Whatever you think just doesn't matter.

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