Cotto was not going to be competitive with Mayweather at 140 during 2004-2006

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  • therealpugilist
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    #31
    Originally posted by djtmal
    please man, i've watched enough of all of these guys to spit from the scrolls and trust my opinion...

    corley was, is, to this day, journeyman who cotto was levels above then, and now..end of

    cotto was a puncher/boxer, who flipped to being more a boxer/puncher after margarito beat him...like i said, @ 140 it is not crazy to say floyd outboxes him, but stops him?...eh maybe on cuts but sparks him out?...only a floyd boy is going to ride with that...
    Just admit you didn't follow boxing at the time

    Contenders BECOME journeyman over time....dude was no journeyman at the time in the early 2000s

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    • djtmal
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      #32
      Originally posted by therealpugilist
      This isn't 30 year old Floyd

      He stopped n or dropped everyone he faced @140

      Also his ko ratio was well over 60% before moving to 147

      Prove is in the pudding....the only big fights he had with his best opponents that didn't get stopped was Castillo n Corely( he got battered n dropped twice)

      Prove was in the pudding
      everyone he faced at 140?

      so exactly what prime elite guys did he drop and stop @ 140?

      was n'dou @ 140? a washed gatti? corley? c'mon man....only you got gassed over that...maybe if he and hatton had rumbled @ 140 and he stopped hatton i can roll with a stoppage of cotto, but you reaching...

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        #33
        Originally posted by therealpugilist
        Just admit you didn't follow boxing at the time

        Contenders BECOME journeyman over time....dude was no journeyman at the time in the early 2000s
        who are you that i have to prove anything to...lmao...

        floyd doensn't have a prime cotto on his resume, and you created this thread to prove he would have beat him anyway....same s**t, different day...

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          #34
          Originally posted by djtmal
          everyone he faced at 140?

          so exactly what prime elite guys did he drop and stop @ 140?

          was n'dou @ 140? a washed gatti? corley? c'mon man....only you got gassed over that...maybe if he and hatton had rumbled @ 140 and he stopped hatton i can roll with a stoppage of cotto, but you reaching...
          So his ko ratio wasn't over 60% before moving to 147?


          Yap yap is all you do..no facts or substance to your posts

          You're hard up for Floyd ...it's cool bro. .everyone has detractors lol

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          • therealpugilist
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            #35
            Originally posted by djtmal
            who are you that i have to prove anything to...lmao...

            floyd doensn't have a prime cotto on his resume, and you created this thread to prove he would have beat him anyway....same s**t, different day...
            ....why are you in your feelings...you dont have to prove anything, your posts already do that for you. you always try to play devils advocate with very little substance, facts, or boxing assessments...its usually 60% emotion....30% trolling...10% actual boxing information

            its not that difficult to know when someone hasnt followed boxing a long time

            you dont have to be a rocket scientist to draw the conclusion that a prime mayweather was simply better than a 35 year old version and at a more natural weight than 154

            also Cotto was still a little green...wouldve been in over his head at that time.

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            • Sweet Jones
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              #36
              Originally posted by therealpugilist
              Certain fights happen at the right time, or at better time than when they were first possible to make. Mayweather and Cotto were on top rank promotions when both

              Campaigned at 140 pounds. Cotto held the WBO belt and Mayweather won the WBC title from Arturo Gatti after this fight.


              Many complain that this fight happened too late. When I saw this fight live and saw Cotto and his handlers reaction, it showed me all i needed to know. Had this fight happened in 2004-2005, I dont think Cotto would have become the fighter he is today or accomplished things that he went on to accomplish. Henry Brusles is Cotto's stablemate. Of course they were scouting Mayweather as a potential opponent.

              He would have took a beating from this version of mayweather. Cotto would have got stopped....everyone mayweather fought from late 2003 to early 2006 he stopped or dropped multiple times(corely is the only one to go the distance).


              This was a prime 27 year old mayweather....not a 35 year old version Cotto fought in 2012.

              Only hardcore Floyd haters and a few of our Puerto Rican brothers think otherwise.

              Other than a Judah-esque barrage of nut shots or in-ring hand injury to Floyd, there is basically no path to victory for Cotto. And you can count on one hand the number of significant left hooks (Cotto's money punch) you've ever seen Mayweather clipped with in his career.

              A clinic and then stoppage was likely. Too much speed, accuracy, power and big fight experience, along with his own defensive liabilities (shaky chin @ 140, susceptibility to uppercuts) going against Cotto's chances.

              Cotto didn't want that work at the time. It is what it is.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Sweet Jones
                Only hardcore Floyd haters and a few of our Puerto Rican brothers think otherwise.

                Other than a Judah-esque barrage of nut shots or in-ring hand injury to Floyd, there is basically no path to victory for Cotto. And you can count on one hand the number of significant left hooks (Cotto's money punch) you've ever seen Mayweather clipped with in his career.

                A clinic and then stoppage was likely. Too much speed, accuracy, power and big fight experience, along with his own defensive liabilities (shaky chin @ 140, susceptibility to uppercuts) going against Cotto's chances.

                Cotto didn't want that work at the time. It is what it is.
                That left hook to the body was gonna set up that counter right uppercut off a block every time


                Watch what happen to bruseles n others who threw a lot of hooks to the body

                Cotto, his team and arum were not as ****** as mayweathets detractors.... Swerve until it's big $$$

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                  #38
                  mayweather at 140 was at his absolute best, while cotto was a bit chinny and inexperienced at the time. not sure about getting a stoppage ( maybe cuts?) but floyd would have dished out some punishment at that point in time imo but cotto wouldve had his moments as well

                  the fight would have been much more competitive back in 2008, when floyd slowed down juuuust a little bit, and didnt carry his power as well at 147. meanwhile, cotto was stronger and sturdier at that weight, along with more experience against quality opposition. the mayweather coming off the hatton win vs the cotto coming off the mosley win would have been such a great matchup.

                  they were both still elite fighters when it finally happened in 2012, but both were well past it by then.

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                    #39
                    floyd fans and their "shoulda, coulda but didnt" post.


                    too bad floyd didnt fight cotto at that weight. so now all you're left with is making threads about how floyd could have beaten him, etc.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by therealpugilist
                      Certain fights happen at the right time, or at better time than when they were first possible to make. Mayweather and Cotto were on top rank promotions when both

                      Campaigned at 140 pounds. Cotto held the WBO belt and Mayweather won the WBC title from Arturo Gatti after this fight.


                      Many complain that this fight happened too late. When I saw this fight live and saw Cotto and his handlers reaction, it showed me all i needed to know. Had this fight happened in 2004-2005, I dont think Cotto would have become the fighter he is today or accomplished things that he went on to accomplish. Henry Brusles is Cotto's stablemate. Of course they were scouting Mayweather as a potential opponent.

                      He would have took a beating from this version of mayweather. Cotto would have got stopped....everyone mayweather fought from late 2003 to early 2006 he stopped or dropped multiple times(corely is the only one to go the distance).


                      This was a prime 27 year old mayweather....not a 35 year old version Cotto fought in 2012.

                      I think Floyd would have won if they fought at 140. But to say it wouldn't have been competitive is nuts dude. Wtf is wrong with you.

                      Dude when they finally did fight. Cotto was WAY more shop worn and was just a shelf of his prime self than what the 35 year old Mayweather was compared to his prime self. And you saw how competitive that fight was.

                      I think a 140lbs fight it would have been competitive and would have had lots of back and forth action. Floyd was fast and skillful but Cotto had good speed too combined with his skill. But I think Floyd would have won in a very competitive fight.

                      To say it wouldn't have been competitive is nuts and is a type of claim only a fanboy would say.

                      You know Puglist, imo you show great knowledge and thought at times but then you also say ****** **** like this.

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