Cotto was not going to be competitive with Mayweather at 140 during 2004-2006

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  • Sweet Jones
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    #61
    Originally posted by djtmal
    ...and please don't ask these forever floyd boys why he retired when the division heated up...they will give you excuses only a fellow floyd die-hard would roll with..
    He fought and defeated Judah at WW before he retired.

    Surely you know this, right?

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      #62
      Originally posted by Sweet Jones
      He fought and defeated Judah at WW before he retired.

      Surely you know this, right?
      surely you can read right?

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      In all honestly,Floyd retired in 2008(not sure if that was the year) Why did he retired? Finally he had soooo...many opponents at welter wgt;
      -Cotto
      -Margarito
      -Mosley
      -Judah

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        #63
        Originally posted by North Star
        Floyd literally said once Merchant asked him about the Cotto fight, that he is retiring from boxing. That he would retire from boxing, and boxing wouldn't retire him. It was the most anticipated fight at the time, because Pacquiao wasn't moving up just yet on his tear.
        the most anticipated fight, and floyd "retires"...that has suspect written all over it from the jump...actually nobody really believed he was retiring...

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          #64
          Originally posted by Sweet Jones
          He fought and defeated Judah at WW before he retired.

          Surely you know this, right?
          Dude...there is a lot of mileage on my memory bank, so please excuse me. I apologize for that. Ohhh matter of fact i meant to say;
          -Paul Williams
          -Antonio Margarito
          -Shane Mosley
          -Miguel Cotto

          Now I want to know why??? If you are in the prime of your life and you have all of these guys at your division with money to be made. If you want the best challenge, like Ali, Leonard, Oscar, Trinidad, Evander, Tyson did, why retired? Again Floyd is a great fighter. But the critics are there.
          Last edited by sugar ray lenrd; 04-19-2017, 02:58 PM.

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            #65
            Originally posted by djtmal
            surely you can read right?

            sugar ray lenrd
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            In all honestly,Floyd retired in 2008(not sure if that was the year) Why did he retired? Finally he had soooo...many opponents at welter wgt;
            -Cotto
            -Margarito
            -Mosley
            -Judah
            Yeah I read it. Did you?

            Because it seems pretty silly to quote inaccurate info while reiterating the point about ducking fighters in a 'heating up' division when HE ALREADY BEAT SAID FIGHTER.

            Capisci?

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              #66
              Originally posted by Sweet Jones
              Yeah I read it. Did you?

              Because it seems pretty silly to quote inaccurate info while reiterating the point about ducking fighters in a 'heating up' division when HE ALREADY BEAT SAID FIGHTER.

              Capisci?
              My Bad, BUt it happens wrong info. But here I'll fix it for you:

              In all honestly,Floyd retired in 2008(not sure if that was the year) Why did he retired? Finally he had soooo...many opponents at welter wgt;
              -Cotto
              -Margarito
              -Mosley
              -Williams

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                #67
                Originally posted by Sweet Jones
                Only hardcore Floyd haters and a few of our Puerto Rican brothers think otherwise.

                Other than a Judah-esque barrage of nut shots or in-ring hand injury to Floyd, there is basically no path to victory for Cotto. And you can count on one hand the number of significant left hooks (Cotto's money punch) you've ever seen Mayweather clipped with in his career.

                A clinic and then stoppage was likely. Too much speed, accuracy, power and big fight experience, along with his own defensive liabilities (shaky chin @ 140, susceptibility to uppercuts) going against Cotto's chances.

                Cotto didn't want that work at the time. It is what it is.
                Cottos $ punch was his jab, always has, always will be.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by therealpugilist
                  i doubt it...mayweather had been calling out Oscar and Mosley since the late 90s and early 2000s

                  ironically the fight didnt happen until both were free agents....at soon as it was possible to make

                  Oscar was his golden goose and he was not gonna let a young pup who was high risk, low reward upset the applecart

                  its no coincidence the fight happened less than a year after floyd left Arum

                  it was not gonna happen...cotto or de la hoya
                  Arum makes big fights in house...he just takes his sweet ass time to build them up. The thing about the de la hoya fight is it was that fight that pushed floyd over the top to be in position for that type of fight from a cross promotional perspective. If floyd stayed at toprank, i think arum would have cashed dlh out vs floyd for sure and the timing wouldn't have been much different. After that, it would have been a perfect time to make a cotto vs floyd mega fight or have a couple ppvs with both guys on them to build it. Knowing arum, he would have wrecked it by putting cotto in with margarito before the fight came off tho.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Sweet Jones
                    He fought and defeated Judah at WW before he retired.

                    Surely you know this, right?
                    So did Carlos Baldomir.

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                    • djtmal
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                      #70
                      [QUOTE=Sweet Jones;17604314]Yeah I read it. Did you?

                      Because it seems pretty silly to quote inaccurate info while reiterating the point about ducking fighters in a 'heating up' division when HE ALREADY BEAT SAID FIGHTER.

                      Capisci?[/QUOT

                      take that up with the person who made the list, not me dude...

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