Finally! Canelo isn't...

[kafkod]

but ring policy completely violates the tenets of the lineal title.

it's like saying i have a policy to recognize a golf cart as lineal champion.

The golf cart would have as much of a legit claim to the lineal MW title as Canelo Alvarez.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Ring magazine award their title belts to whoever they recognise as lineal champion of that division.

In other words, according to Ring magazine policy, Ring champion and lineal champion are one and the same.

I think I'll go with [MENTION]original zero [/MENTION]on this. If it's about the belts, he knows the score.

[kafkod]

I think I'll go with [MENTION]original zero [/MENTION]on this. If it's about the belts, he knows the score.

I just stated the Ring magazine's policy on lineal champs.. whether he thinks they should have that policy is another matter.

[original zero]

I just stated the Ring magazine's policy on lineal champs.. whether he thinks they should have that policy is another matter.

ring magazine, which is no longer impartial and is owned by a promoter, started instituting rules that had NOTHING TO DO WITH LINEAL. for instance, creating top five mandatories, from any division and stripping fighters for not facing those mandatories.

which is the 100% opposite of what a lineal champion is. golden boy promotions can't strip showtime's fighter of his "lineal" title to prop up HBO's pay-per-view. that's ridiculous.

meanwhile golden boy's fighter can keep his middleweight title because he fought a top welterweight contender.

it makes no sense at all.

golden boy is making up the rules as they go along and the rules have nothing to do with the lineal title.

fans need to realize that ring & lineal are no longer one and the same. they have nothing to do with each other at this point. the ring's most respected journalists quit in protest and the spirit of the ring title lives on with the TBRB title they created to replace it.

TBRB isn't perfect, but it does strive to stick to the core tenets of lineal. ring does not. ring in fact blatantly violates the core tenets of the lineal title.

[SensFullViolenc]

Ring is pretty good on some things. But their handling of Canelo demonstrates that they cant be trusted when it comes to GBP fighters.

I agree that TBRB is the best authority. I think they may want to take a look at their rules and be a little more strict with how often a champ needs to defend.

[original zero]

I agree that TBRB is the best authority. I think they may want to take a look at their rules and be a little more strict with how often a champ needs to defend.

the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

you defeat the entire purpose of a lineal title when you start trying to enforce arbitrary rules.

the champion is the champion until he loses, leaves the division or retires. period.

[kafkod]

ring magazine, which is no longer impartial and is owned by a promoter, started instituting rules that had NOTHING TO DO WITH LINEAL. for instance, creating top five mandatories, from any division and stripping fighters for not facing those mandatories.

which is the 100% opposite of what a lineal champion is. golden boy promotions can't strip showtime's fighter of his "lineal" title to prop up HBO's pay-per-view. that's ridiculous.

meanwhile golden boy's fighter can keep his middleweight title because he fought a top welterweight contender.

it makes no sense at all.

golden boy is making up the rules as they go along and the rules have nothing to do with the lineal title.

fans need to realize that ring & lineal are no longer one and the same. they have nothing to do with each other at this point. the ring's most respected journalists quit in protest and the spirit of the ring title lives on with the TBRB title they created to replace it.

TBRB isn't perfect, but it does strive to stick to the core tenets of lineal. ring does not. ring in fact blatantly violates the core tenets of the lineal title.

Some fans don't realise that the Ring championship belts are awarded to whoever the Ring recognises as lineal champ.

Personally, I think that lineal titles are irrelevant and serve no purpose other than to give hardcore fans something else to argue about.

Say what you like about the alphabet boys, but nobody can argue about who their champions actually are. After the WBC ordered Canelo to fight GGG or vacate, he didn't have the option to just ignore them and still carry on calling himself the WBC MW champion, the way he did with the lineal.

[kafkod]

the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

you defeat the entire purpose of a lineal title when you start trying to enforce arbitrary rules.

the champion is the champion until he loses, leaves the division or retires. period.

What is the purpose of a lineal title?

[original zero]

What is the purpose of a lineal title?

to keep track of the man who beat the man. no different than when the lineal chess title and fide title were split.

[original zero]

Some fans don't realise that the Ring championship belts are awarded to whoever the Ring recognises as lineal champ.

that's not how words work.

it'd be like if i awarded the lineal title to whoever had the biggest ****. that isn't how lineal works, so if that's my criteria, it isn't a lineal title.