would prime JC Chavez Sr beat Floyd Mayweather

[therealpugilist]

Floyd went undefeated while ducking the most dangerous fights and taking on big names past their prime. Manny is an eight division champion which carries more weight than Floyd's zero which came against smaller fighters, aged out and battle worn fighters, and soon-to-be MMA carnival clown.

yea ....castillo, corrales, Hatton, Judah, were all past their prime

its ok to be second best...Manny was never the fighter the media made him out to be....just like GGG today and you guys are butthurt when people point it out...itll be ok bro

[Larry the boss]

Maybe...

But the careers were differents, Floyd had a swift career and was very disciplined, for his style he doesn't took much punches.

The point is that is a reality that JCC vs Withaker(in welterweight) and Randall was out of his prime. That's totally evident.

It was evident with Floyd aswell..cant use the excuse for once and ignore the other

[therealpugilist]

It was evident with Floyd aswell..cant use the excuse for once and ignore the other

People forget that Floyd was past prime for all his major fights

Vs Oscar he was 30, 5th division

Hatton, PAC, canelo, Mosley, cotto, all happened in his 30s

Guess he is a black highlander

[Larry the boss]

People forget that Floyd was past prime for all his major fights

Vs Oscar he was 30, 5th division

Hatton, PAC, canelo, Mosley, cotto, all happened in his 30s

Guess he is a black highlander

Honeslty i think Floyds last prime fight may have been Hatton..

[therealpugilist]

Honeslty i think Floyds last prime fight may have been Hatton..

I think he'd slowed a bit since 04-06


His hands were in better shape, threw more combos and IMO he looked scary good @ 140.

He was physically stronger and more experienced by 07 so I could see it being the last look of the best he'd ever been....he wasn't punishing guys @ 147 like he was below

[Larry the boss]

I think he'd slowed a bit since 04-06


His hands were in better shape, threw more combos and IMO he looked scary good @ 140.

He was physically stronger and more experienced by 07 so I could see it being the last look of the best he'd ever been....he wasn't punishing guys @ 147 like he was below

I agree he looked great at 140 but then again the comp he faced was better at 147-154

[DinoCop]

He can if Floyd choses to plant himself like he did in vs Castillio I and Maidana I, plus Floyd bleeds internally.
I think Floyd does that on purpose to give fans excitement or idk what but he almost or did lost against Castillio, we know in sequels he just boxed them out.

[Metho_4u]

No, see meld meldrick Taylor getting ripped off after giving him a boxing lesson for much of the fight.

[Metho_4u]

yea ....castillo, corrales, Hatton, Judah, were all past their prime

its ok to be second best...Manny was never the fighter the media made him out to be....just like GGG today and you guys are butthurt when people point it out...itll be ok bro

Yep, talk about beating out of prime, weight drained, and guys who already had the **** kicked out of them (several by floyd) first.

[A.K]

He looked like a fool against pernell he would look about the same with Floyd.