would prime JC Chavez Sr beat Floyd Mayweather

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  • therealpugilist
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    #61
    Originally posted by djtmal
    rebuttal...

    hatton, corrales, and alvarez,..floyd's best wins over prime fighters and prime jcc doesn't trump these guys?

    prime jcc destroyed a prime roger mayweather, and has a prime meldrick taylor...ruined him, and floyd beats him 8-4?...gtfoh

    i am exposing how you ****ride
    look at their overall body of work..its clear as day

    i like roger and meldrick at 140 but lets be real....do you think Chavez could have beaten Pacquaio at 147...canelo at 152....ODLH at 154?

    corrales would have knocked roger TF out and Taylor is no more talented than Zab Judah...neither guy lived up to their potential and lost most of their big fights

    heeeeeell naw....Floyd is simply a more talented fighter than his uncle and taylor...you know that

    also jcc never looked good past 140
    Last edited by therealpugilist; 04-04-2017, 01:09 PM.

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      #62
      Originally posted by therealpugilist
      look at their overall body of work..its clear as day

      i like roger and meldrick at 140 but lets be real....do you think Chavez could have beaten Pacquaio at 147...canelo at 152....ODLH at 154?

      corrales would have knocked roger TF out and Taylor is no more talented than Zab Judah...neither guy lived up to their potential and lost most of their big fights

      heeeeeell naw....Floyd is simply a more talented fighter than his uncle and taylor...you know that
      you talking about talent, i am talking about who they actually beat with that talent...

      floyd...with all that talent...has he actually beat a priime, atg talent that we can speak of?...no...hatton, corrales, and canelo are the most prime peak guys on the resume...f**k the whole body of work...we talking about head to head prime vs. prime...all guys whose styles play right into floyds wheelhouse...

      chavez, an atg fighter who ranks right up there with floyd imo, has hunted down some real good slippery mofos in his day like roger, like camacho, like taylor..i am talking about the 135-140 version of jcc...not the one who fought whittaker...i say he's fully capable of tracking floyd down...at the same time i said floyd is disciplines enough to outbox chavez for 12...but to say floyd would beat him 8-4 is totally disrespectful...

      get your head out of floyd's azz a little man and allow people to have some fun breaking down these threads...

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        #63
        That would have been a helluva fight at 135. Slightly favor Floyd, but would not count out Chavez

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        • therealpugilist
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          #64
          Originally posted by djtmal
          you talking about talent, i am talking about who they actually beat with that talent...

          floyd...with all that talent...has he actually beat a priime, atg talent that we can speak of?...no...hatton, corrales, and canelo are the most prime peak guys on the resume...f**k the whole body of work...we talking about head to head prime vs. prime...all guys whose styles play right into floyds wheelhouse...

          chavez, an atg fighter who ranks right up there with floyd imo, has hunted down some real good slippery mofos in his day like roger, like camacho, like taylor..i am talking about the 135-140 version of jcc...not the one who fought whittaker...i say he's fully capable of tracking floyd down...at the same time i said floyd is disciplines enough to outbox chavez for 12...but to say floyd would beat him 8-4 is totally disrespectful...

          get your head out of floyd's azz a little man and allow people to have some fun breaking down these threads...
          you do realize mayweather fought half the fights Chavez did and defeated more world champions and hall of famers......right...bwhahahahahahahahahhaa


          chavez list of champions/titlists defeated....15....only 2 hall of famers in over 100 fights

          Haugen
          Taylor
          Lockridge
          Randall
          LaPorte
          Joey Gamache
          Giovanni Parisi
          toney Lopez
          Camacho
          Lonnie Smith
          Sammy Fuentes
          Jose Luis Ramirez
          R. Mayweather
          Limon
          Rosario



          Mayweathers list of champions/titlists defeated...23...and over half a dozen guys who are in or will get in the hall.

          Pacquaio
          Marquez
          Cotto
          Judah
          Baldomir
          Castillo
          Chavez
          Hernandez
          G. Hernandez
          Goyo Vargas
          Corrales
          Mosley
          Maidana
          Canelo
          DLH
          Corely
          Baldomir
          Gatti
          Mitchell
          Berto
          Hatton
          Guerrero
          Ortiz


          its not even close....

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            #65
            Originally posted by djtmal
            you talking about talent, i am talking about who they actually beat with that talent...

            floyd...with all that talent...has he actually beat a priime, atg talent that we can speak of?...no...hatton, corrales, and canelo are the most prime peak guys on the resume...f**k the whole body of work...we talking about head to head prime vs. prime...all guys whose styles play right into floyds wheelhouse...

            chavez, an atg fighter who ranks right up there with floyd imo, has hunted down some real good slippery mofos in his day like roger, like camacho, like taylor..i am talking about the 135-140 version of jcc...not the one who fought whittaker...i say he's fully capable of tracking floyd down...at the same time i said floyd is disciplines enough to outbox chavez for 12...but to say floyd would beat him 8-4 is totally disrespectful...

            get your head out of floyd's azz a little man and allow people to have some fun breaking down these threads...
            Chavez is great....he gets a little overrated by casuals

            he fought a lot of very good fighters but never beat anyone considered a all time GREAT....Mayweather beat Pac, JMM, ODLH, Mosley

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              #66
              Originally posted by therealpugilist
              you do realize mayweather fought half the fights Chavez did and defeated more world champions and hall of famers......right...bwhahahahahahahahahhaa


              chavez list of champions/titlists defeated....15....only 2 hall of famers in over 100 fights

              Haugen
              Taylor
              Lockridge
              Randall
              LaPorte
              Joey Gamache
              Giovanni Parisi
              toney Lopez
              Camacho
              Lonnie Smith
              Sammy Fuentes
              Jose Luis Ramirez
              R. Mayweather
              Limon
              Rosario



              Mayweathers list of champions/titlists defeated...23...and over half a dozen guys who are in or will get in the hall.

              Pacquaio
              Marquez
              Cotto
              Judah
              Baldomir
              Castillo
              Chavez
              Hernandez
              G. Hernandez
              Goyo Vargas
              Corrales
              Mosley
              Maidana
              Canelo
              DLH
              Corely
              Baldomir
              Gatti
              Mitchell
              Berto
              Hatton
              Guerrero
              Ortiz


              its not even close....
              & mayweather has the same amount of prime atg wins on his resume that chavez has, which is zero...goose egg....zilch....

              so under that premise, anything can happen when its two atg fighters...of course we know you gonna say its a clear floyd sweep because we know you ain't gonna see it no other way...which is lame

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              • djtmal
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                #67
                Originally posted by therealpugilist
                Chavez is great....he gets a little overrated by casuals

                he fought a lot of very good fighters but never beat anyone considered a all time GREAT....Mayweather beat Pac, JMM, ODLH, Mosley
                oh so now chavez is just great, and overrated..lol...he's a f**king official atg...there's no overrating that...

                i tell you, you boys love trying to play down these past greats so it makes floyd look better...marquez was a weight mismatch, and oscar, mosley, and pac were faded versions of themselves...you can't even put prime next to any of those names...and i don't want to hear that well floyd wasn't prime either crap, cause it makes your argument look weak...

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by djtmal
                  oh so now chavez is just great, and overrated..lol...he's a f**king official atg...there's no overrating that...

                  i tell you, you boys love trying to play down these past greats so it makes floyd look better...marquez was a weight mismatch, and oscar, mosley, and pac were faded versions of themselves...you can't even put prime next to any of those names...and i don't want to hear that well floyd wasn't prime either crap, cause it makes your argument look weak...
                  great fighters get overrated all the time....especially by media and the casual fans

                  i remember those pac mania days....great great fighter but was never the best of his era or fighter of the decade when he LOST AND DREW in the decade, while floyd went undefeated across several divisions

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by therealpugilist
                    great fighters get overrated all the time....especially by media and the casual fans

                    i remember those pac mania days....great great fighter but was never the best of his era or fighter of the decade when he LOST AND DREW in the decade, while floyd went undefeated across several divisions
                    whatever man, meanwhile on earth, we talking about if prime chavez could beat mayweather, and i say yes because not only is he an official atg, but one of the best hunters of slick fighters of all time and the names and fights check out...

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by therealpugilist
                      great fighters get overrated all the time....especially by media and the casual fans

                      i remember those pac mania days....great great fighter but was never the best of his era or fighter of the decade when he LOST AND DREW in the decade, while floyd went undefeated across several divisions
                      Floyd went undefeated while ducking the most dangerous fights and taking on big names past their prime. Manny is an eight division champion which carries more weight than Floyd's zero which came against smaller fighters, aged out and battle worn fighters, and soon-to-be MMA carnival clown.

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