Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Coach Reacts To De La Hoya's Position on June Fight

[Nightfall]

weak response which is another reason why this fight has been delayed. just hold some kind of press conference and call canelo a coward. make lil G do that himself. guarantee this fight happens in september

[skinnystev]

so tired of listening to de la holic's excuses

[GMAN SUPREME]

k2 should give golden girl promotions the finger and fight in june whether its against saunders or someone else, don't let oscar de la cokehead dictate when you can or can't fight.

[Verus]

Putting emotion and BS aside for a moment, let's think this through. 1) Assume that team Canelo and his team do not want to fight GGG and are looking to scuttle the fight. 2) GGG's folks have conceded that there is a $15 million plus on the table from GB. Question: Does it make sense to hold out for more money if Canelo's team is bound and determined to duck GGG? Answer: Yes if you can make more money fighting someone else; No, if you really believe Canelo is looking for ways to scuttle the fight! The smart move then is to sign the contract, take the $15 million plus small upside, beat the hell out of Canelo, thank your adoring fans, count your money and buy half the properties in Kazakhstan or some such thing.

[Graz]

Abel on point again. Looking forward to Golovkin unifying the division in June with Saunders. So bored with Oscar and GBP shenanigans. I'm sure even Canelo is embarrassed by the manipulation.

[kafkod]

that's your opinion but everything I said is a fact. You and all of triple b sides fans resort to name calling when you have no points to make. Has canelo not been in big fights as the a side and b side? Has he not fought in multiple weight classes and gave concessions to make fights happen? BBB has done none of this so how can you possibly continue to believe unabel Sanchez's bs when his fighter is constantly "not" making the big fights happen?

[bluemax]

Is Dela Hoya drinking again??? Here we go Canelo's camp looking for another out for their carnival fighter. I really can't blame them they've been able to pull huge rating pushing Canelo's nationality while carefully cherry picking fights giving the easily led public the impression Alverez is great! Don't hear a lot of talk about the Mayweather fight the only real challenge Canelo has had with a past his prime Mayweather that took him to school. They'll drag this baloney out making crazy demands they know the champion won't even consider while father time ticks away. What they really want is for Golovkin to continue to age but keep winning then when he's way past his prime they'll pursue a big cash fight. I'd love to see Golovkin call their bluff but even if he did the fight would be delayed somehow, maybe a sparring injury for Canelo. I'm still hoping that a severely weight drained Chavez beats the tar out of Canelo and then see what excuses happen. I'll bet we'll hear how Canelo had a 106 degree fever the day of the bout and fought with a broken hand. What a phoney

[BattlingNelson]

Putting emotion and BS aside for a moment, let's think this through. 1) Assume that team Canelo and his team do not want to fight GGG and are looking to scuttle the fight. 2) GGG's folks have conceded that there is a $15 million plus on the table from GB. Question: Does it make sense to hold out for more money if Canelo's team is bound and determined to duck GGG? Answer: Yes if you can make more money fighting someone else; No, if you really believe Canelo is looking for ways to scuttle the fight! The smart move then is to sign the contract, take the $15 million plus small upside, beat the hell out of Canelo, thank your adoring fans, count your money and buy half the properties in Kazakhstan or some such thing.

1: Do you have a source for GGG's team having conceded that there's a 15M dollar offer on the table?
2: Are you aware that a contract may also include other Things than monetary issues such as options, rematch clause, rematch splits etc.? There could be several poison pills in that alledged 15M offer.

[kafkod]

Oh Canelo he's worked so hard for all of this! The nerve of Golovkin to want to fight!

Canelo has had the world handed to him, simply because he was a talented young Mexican fighter with red hair.

-After many subpar opponents, he gets his first title fight at 154, against the great Matthew Hatton. Who never once fought in the division. And they agreed to a 150 pound catch weight. That Canelo failed to make. No matter, Canelo wins decision, champion!

-After some soft title defenses, Canelo has his first real test as a pro - Austin Trout. Coming out of nowhere like an RKO off the turnbuckle, the WBC slides in and makes this fight open scoring. Hey, we wouldn't want any funny business in this massive worldwide event, right? Of course not. No matter, all three judges have Canelo well ahead on points, even though it was a close fight and Canelo had the luxury of knowing he was well ahead.

-That one fight beating Austin Trout was enough to get him Money Mayweather, a fight that would sell 2.2 million PPV buys and earn Canelo a massive payday. But wait, what did Canelo do to deserve this fight? Mayweather, a champ in multiple weight classes, sold massive PPVs, an absolute legend. Under your own damn logic that you just used against Golovkin should apply here right? Uh oh, busted! Let's see how you backtrack out of this one!

From there, Canelo can fight ANYONE HE WANTS. He has that luxury. Angulo? Done. Lara? Done. Cotto? Done. Kirkland? Done. Khan? Done. Liam Smith? Done. Never has an opponent said, "you know what? I'm good. I'll pass on Canelo". Why? Because he's the Golden child. He's beatable and earns a lot of money. Golovkin, a man from kazakhstan, never had that luxury. He spent years in Germany trying to get the big names over there, guys like Felix Sturm, Geale, Murray, hell even Mundine. And he struggled getting those guys. Not because he wasn't good or that he didn't earn it, no because the undefeated Olympic medalist was viewed as high risk low reward. Even for the likes of Mundine.

Golovkin didn't have a built in Mexican fanbase, he had no fanbase whatsoever and what fans he has today he built from scratch, as they would say, he started from the bottom. I would argue what Golovkin has done, from kazakhstan to the Olympics to Germany to HBO headliner to American PPV is far more difficult than what Canelo had to do. If you're a good Mexican fighter, you have a fanbase. If you're a unique and charismatic Mexican fighter? Well that has all the ingredients to becoming a star. Look at Oscar before him. Canelo was a star the moment he started fighting. Thousands of people were watching him fight at 15 years of age and millions just shortly after that. By the time he fought someone with a pulse, he was already a legit star.

So please, spare us the bullshit about what Canelo has accomplished and what Golovkin hasn't for all of us know they've had drastically different paths to get here. As fight fans, the ONLY thing that should matter is that those two entirely different paths cross with each other very soon before it's too late. As if we need another great fight that is either made too late or not at all.

Excellent post!

But I keep reading here about how Canelo "paid his dues" by bending over for Mayweather then plodding around the ring doing nothing for 12 rounds.

That was a career defining defeat for Canelo and everything Golovkin has accomplished pales into insignificance in comparison.

[BattlingNelson]

Oh and De La Hoya is so inconsistent. Before he himself fought Chávez snr. in september, he had a fight in June of that same year.

Time to quit your substance abuse Again Oscar.