Comments Thread For: No Robbery at MSG, But Golovkin's Future Plans are Criminal

[yankees7448]

GGG has a weird fanbase. They want him to be great but want him to take the path of least resistance to greatness. Breaking Hopkins record is a good accomplishmemt but that isn't what made Hopkins great. If Hopkins would've stayed at middleweight after his loses to Taylor he'd be considered a good middleweight for his era. What made Hopkins great was the risks he took to be great.
At the rate GGG is going he'll be considered a good middleweight for his era. Even a win over Canelo won't make him great. Canelo has already been beaten by Floyd & arguably Lara. Beating Canelo won't make him great, he'll make a lot of money tho.

We really need to put things in perspective here. Hopkins began his career in October 1988. He didn't leave the middleweight division until June 2006. That's 18 years. You know who made his debut earlier that year. GGG. Ok. So GGG has been plying his trade in the middleweight division for almost 7 years less than B-Hop. So daring to be great my tush. The guy saw there was a young bull in the division he couldn't get past and some guys he could take advantage of at a higher weight. That he was able to keep dominating at a higher weight until he was almost 50 makes him a certified first ballot hall of famer. But it wasn't taking risks that made him great. 18 years in one division is not taking risks its padding your stats in a division you are very comfortable in.

As for the whole Canelo thing, objectively I'd agree with you. But history isn't going to remember Lara fondly. Canelo will be one of those guys that gets talked about years later because of his style, look and heritage. Like it or not, the history would weigh a victory over Canelo more than even a victory over Jacobs.

He just had a close victory over a guy not many gave a chance. People have started to question how good he really is. There were already questions about how good he really is considering his level of competition. That fight left a lot more questions than answers. Instead of answering those questions he's chasing something that'll look good on paper but won't really mean much until he answer those questions in his fight with Jacobs.

His first real test and his grade is an incomplete. Instead of taking the test again he moves on.

I think the big problem is that everyone, myself included underrated Jacobs. He's better than we thought and could take a punch much better than we thought.

[bigdunny1]

How did you score #GGGJacobs? Fans sided with @DanielJacobsTKO on the @Throwdownscore app! Why did you score it the way you did? #boxing pic.twitter.com/0DazL2ORmH

— Dan Rafael (@danrafaelespn) March 21, 2017

[allupnem]

Spot on bro. What they don't realize is that at the end of the day, no one will remember how many belts you won. They'll remember who you fought, when you fought them, and how you did against other great fighters. GGG doesn't have one name on his resume that's gonna make historians take notice. Even if he beats Canelo. Who's already been beaten by a welterweight and arguably a jr middleweight.

Jacobs fought the best fight he'll ever fight and it wasn't enough. Throw in his dishonesty about the IBF belt he doesn't deserve a immediate rematch let him fight Lemieux and prove this wasn't just one good night for him.

[yankees7448]

You said it yourself. The only name that does anything for Danny at 160 is GGG. The only other fights that have any degree of solid risk/reward would be Canelo and Saunders (if its for the belt.) Canelo, for obvious reasons, and it will never happened. Saunders would only make sense if he took that belt that GGG wants so much.

I didn't say no one else does anything for Danny. There are other fights out there that will entertain fans while building his resume and his profile. And they are very winnable fights at that.

[yankees7448]

I thought Jacobs under performed. He was on the move too much. Golovkin has looked most vulnerable the few times he has been backed up. Jacobs was bigger, but didn't get in Golovkin's chest much. Golovkin is good, I'd rate both he and Jacobs as better than Martinez.

Martinez reminded me a lot of RJJ in that he had a style that worked for him because of his speed and athleticism but once both were gone so was his ability to dominate.

[Motorcity Cobra]

We really need to put things in perspective here. Hopkins began his career in October 1988. He didn't leave the middleweight division until June 2006. That's 18 years. You know who made his debut earlier that year. GGG. Ok. So GGG has been plying his trade in the middleweight division for almost 7 years less than B-Hop. So daring to be great my tush. The guy saw there was a young bull in the division he could get past and some guys he could take advantage of at a higher weight. That he was able to keep dominating at a higher weight until he was almost 50 makes him a certified first ballot hall of famer. But it wasn't taking risks that made him great. 18 years in one division is not taking risks its padding your stats in a division you are very comfortable in.

As for the whole Canelo thing, objectively I'd agree with you. But history isn't going to remember Lara fondly. Canelo will be one of those guys that gets talked about years later because of his style, look and heritage. Like it or not, the history would weigh a victory over Canelo more than even a victory over Jacobs.



I think the big problem is that everyone, myself included underrated Jacobs. He's better than we thought and could take a punch much better than we thought.

GGG doesn't have the style to last as long as Hopkins. He's done in the next 2-3 years. Even if he breaks Hopkins record no one is going to say he was a better fighter than Hopkins. That middleweight record and unification has always been used as an excuse to not take tough challenges. Loeffler & Abel have said they'll only move up for big money fights. Not for challenges, for big money fights. So when someone throws out a challenge, they fall back on the excuse they want to stay at middleweight and unify. Fight Ward, no that's not a big money fight, but it's a challenge. Fight Chavez Jr, that's a big money fight but not a challenge. Fight Rodriguez, ok but at a catch-weight and a rehydration clause. GGG has to have every advantage. It's hilarious people are crying about Jacobs weight when GGG just fought a WELTERWEIGHT!!!

[OnePunch]

How did you score #GGGJacobs? Fans sided with @DanielJacobsTKO on the @Throwdownscore app! Why did you score it the way you did? #boxing pic.twitter.com/0DazL2ORmH

— Dan Rafael (@danrafaelespn) March 21, 2017

giving jacobs rounds 1 and 3 is laughable.....

[Levity]

Ya, I thought Jacobs did next to nothing in the first, whereas GGG landed some nice jabs. The first three were slow, and I think GGG certainly has an argument for being ahead after three.

Certainly, I struggle to see how one sees the fight as a robbery if shifting those rounds a bit leads to GGG winning.

[BoxngLove]

They gave Sergio Martinez a hard time for taking the easy path while completely clearing out the MW division, too. GGG fights 4x a year and just landed his first PPV slot. I expected him to take fewer chances in the fight.

[The plunger man]

From the first few paragraphs you know what avenue this author is taking...for me it was a close fight with jacobs just edging it but scoring for triple ggg i have no arguments....now the author talks about a meaningless trinket ? Obviously this author has no ide what it means for a boxer to be an undisputed champion and holding all the belts and thinking like this proves he has never boxed a round in his life.....go to any world class boxer or even a boxer starting his career and ask him what his ambition is....every single fighter will say to become the undisputed champion of his division.....should there be a rematch ...yes there should be but can it wait till be has achived his ambition ? damn right it should