Comments Thread For: Gennady Golovkin's Promoter on Facing Jacobs, Canelo, Chavez Jr.

[Eastcoast]

The problem with this post is you only seem to criticize negotiating when its the guy opposing GGG. GGG is going to do the same thing when he fights Canelo, negotiate for the biggest possible payday.

Yeah but Golovkin's not going to kill or delay the fight in the process.

If Canelo had offered him the $10mill for this December, I'm pretty sure he would've eventually accepted once it was clear he couldn't get anymore from GB. The fact that he's still negotiating for a fight that's a year away with multiple fights in between is not comparable to the Jacobs situation.

Right now it's looking very likely the Jacobs fight is dead. Golovkin will probably fight N'Dam next and make between $2-$3mill on regular HBO. Jacobs will do what? Maybe Haymon matches him up with Jermall for another $1.5mill? But according to Jacobs, $1.5mill is chump change.

[_Maxi]

Maxi, I don't agree with your thinking. That said, I am not saying you are wrong or shouldn't feel that way.

My point is simply if Jacobs feels he deserves more and tries to get it, its unfair to complain about that when, as your paragraph points out, you wouldn't be mad at GGG doing the same.

There in lies the problem. The only thing Jacobs has to negotiate with at this point is the purse bid.

Yes, we agree on that. My point is. Don't blame Golovkin for the fight not happening. They should go to purse bid and period.

[Shadoww702]

Canelo vs Golovkin is estimated to generate at least 1 million PPV buys, which is at least 75 million dollars ppv alone (not counting international tv fees, gate, etc). And you expect GGG to accept just 10 millions flat fee? you must be a hater.

I expect HBO to take HALF right off the bat. That leaves $37 left. Subtract $10 that leaves $27 left to split between PROMOTOR and Canelo who will/should get $15-20. GB Promotions is NOT gonna do this fight for 7-10 million. They'll spend that in promoting it.

*** give GGG $20million and let Oscar and Canelo to Split $17 million. Is thAt your thinking??? Sht give it ALL to GGG and let GB just be happy to be there right???

[_Maxi]

If your estimates about Golovkin are accurate and he's a PPV star, then he should easily do over 300k with Jacobs and pay the man his money.

Which is it?

I'm not saying Golovkin is a PPV star. Was Maidana a PPV star? no, yet he made almost 1 millon both times against Mayweather. How much did Berto make? 400k.

See the difference? neither Berto or Maidana were PPV stars but Maidana helped to generate 1 million PPV buys.

Canelo can make some fights like a rematch with Cotto and sell maybe 600k, but Golovkin is the only fight in which he can make close to 1 million if not more.

[The Big Dunn]

The BIGGEST problem is the difference between an additional $500k-$1 million is GGG vs. Jacobs

Or

GGG vs. Alfonso Blanco and his 12 TOTAL fkn fights!!!!

WOW!!! Which fights SCREAMS MISMATCH and FK the fans???

My guess is they will make a last minute deal. I think both guys want the fight.

[_Maxi]

I expect HBO to take HALF right off the bat. That leaves $37 left. Subtract $10 that leaves $27 left to split between PROMOTOR and Canelo who will/should get $15-20. GB Promotions is NOT gonna do this fight for 7-10 million. They'll spend that in promoting it.

*** give GGG $20million and let Oscar and Canelo to Split $17 million. Is thAt your thinking??? Sht give it ALL to GGG and let GB just be happy to be there right???

Include the gate, sponsors, and the international tv rights, and the fight generates more than 100 millions. And no HBO won't take half.

[Shadoww702]

My guess is they will make a last minute deal. I think both guys want the fight.

God I hope so!!! I'm DONE wasting my time on mismatches. Brook/GGG was the last fight I've seen of GGG in a LONG time. I also haven't seen that shty Canelo /Smith fight.

[The Big Dunn]

Yeah but Golovkin's not going to kill or delay the fight in the process.

If Canelo had offered him the $10mill for this December, I'm pretty sure he would've eventually accepted once it was clear he couldn't get anymore from GB. The fact that he's still negotiating for a fight that's a year away with multiple fights in between is not comparable to the Jacobs situation.

Right now it's looking very likely the Jacobs fight is dead. Golovkin will probably fight N'Dam next and make between $2-$3mill on regular HBO. Jacobs will do what? Maybe Haymon matches him up with Jermall for another $1.5mill? But according to Jacobs, $1.5mill is chump change.

You mean by doing something like taking step aside money 3 times?

I am not saying they are equal dude. Them not being equal doesn't mean Jacobs and his side has to take what is offered.

What good does that do? We got here because GGG continually fights guys who take 5-10% of the total purse for a fight. Maybe It's not just Jacobs that is getting inflated purses, perhaps its GGG as well.

Had he been in with better opponents, who presumably come at a higher price, he'd either have been getting less money or HBO would have had to increase their fee to meet both guys price.

I don't know what happens if the fight doesn't get made. I will say this- if the end result is GGG in with another bum, and the ratings drop because of this, who wins in the end?

[The Big Dunn]

Yes, we agree on that. My point is. Don't blame Golovkin for the fight not happening. They should go to purse bid and period.

Blame will be placed if the fight doesn't happen based on the facts.

If it goes to a bid, Dibella wins and GGG doesn't take the fight, then it is on him (although my guess would be HBO made the call). If Jacobs ends up walking away then its on him.

At this point, no one is "ducking". Jacobs is just using every available tool in his shed to get what he wants. Thats is what you, I and everyone that understands the sport expects GGG to do when he is in Jacobs position.

[Chollo Vista]

I'm not saying Golovkin is a PPV star

Yes you have

Was Maidana a PPV star? no, yet he made almost 1 millon both times against Mayweather. How much did Berto make? 400k.

See the difference? neither Berto or Maidana were PPV stars but Maidana helped to generate 1 million PPV buys.

Canelo can make some fights like a rematch with Cotto and sell maybe 600k, but Golovkin is the only fight in which he can make close to 1 million if not more.

That's a bad depiction.

Maidana had just beaten an undefeated Adrien Broner. Broner who was supposed to be the next coming of Mayweather. There was a storyline.

When Floyd fought Berto, he was coming off of one of the most boring mega-fights in boxing history and mainstream viewers were done with him. The Berto fight was a throw away.

The examples you provided aren't the same.

Now we have Jacobs vs Golovkin.

Jacobs had a HUGE win against Quillin in 80 something seconds. There's a story line. Daniel Jacobs is a bigger threat to Golovkin, than Berto was to Mayweather in a throw away fight.

You guys clamor about Golovkin selling out stadiums, being a HUGE star, etc, but you say GGG can't sell 300k vs Jacobs, yet he deserves over 10 million against Canelo?