Hagler vs James Toney MW WAR

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #21
    Originally posted by Canelo and GGG
    to be honest who like them?

    i think Toney was at his best at HW he was toying with them and haveing fun while boxing perfect.Beside he was a mover Hagler liked inside and trade thats why i see him haveing big trouble with heavy handed James.
    Toney's record at Heavyweight is shocking.

    Toney is not going to have anything for Hagler, from range he'd pick him apart with the straight left and using angles.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Canelo and GGG
      to be honest who like them?

      i think Toney was at his best at HW he was toying with them and haveing fun while boxing perfect.Beside he was a mover Hagler liked inside and trade thats why i see him haveing big trouble with heavy handed James.
      I don't feel like Hagler liked trade and fighting inside, i feel he wasn't afraid of trade, but he was a great boxer, Toney wasn't a mover, his footwork was awesome for his style, but he usually stayed in the pocket to counterpunch, Hagler could outbox-him all night, power isn't an issue in this fight for neither guy, maybe Toney's speed can be a problem, but Hagler was too determinate.

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #23
        Originally posted by Canelo and GGG
        there are ways to bit everybody,Toney showed in many fights what he is able to do when he is on form dont rate him to low ,dude is skilled monster,Hagler is legend but his boxing skills are overrated for me ,he was so good due to determination and jab at most cases .but he could be outboxed.

        Btw did Hagler lost to Willy monroe jr's father or they are not related?
        Toney's boxing skills are even more overrated.

        What did Toney show you when he was on form that suggests that he's on Hagler's level?

        And yeah I think that is his father if I'm not mistaken in regards to Monroe.

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          #24
          I like Toney but Marvin whoops his ass

          Hagler was a class above him in pedigree

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          • Willy Wanker
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            #25
            Hagler outworks Toney and wins a UD.

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              #26
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              Toney's boxing skills are even more overrated.

              What did Toney show you when he was on form that suggests that he's on Hagler's level?

              And yeah I think that is his father if I'm not mistaken in regards to Monroe.
              He showed me he could creat angles like crazy ,make opponents miss and pay all night,iron chin and underated jab,you dont need to be mover to outbox mover,(Canelo-Cotto) ,i think Tony is skilled af and not overreted,but his is not ATG cus he get lazy and lost many in the end ,he could be mutch better,His Record in HW is not shocking,He should be Word Champ in fact,but he lost some when he was old and not so good ,anyway you have fair points too ty for a little discussion ,its not common on this forum.

              btw i think Tony could out jab Hagler if he wont get lazy with it ,he had very difficoult jab to defend from.

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                #27
                Both highly skilled and legendary chins.

                Gonna go with Hagler because of the better legs

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Canelo and GGG
                  He showed me he could creat angles like crazy ,make opponents miss and pay all night,iron chin and underated jab,you dont need to be mover to outbox mover,(Canelo-Cotto) ,i think Tony is skilled af and not overreted,but his is not ATG cus he get lazy and lost many in the end ,he could be mutch better,His Record in HW is not shocking,He should be Word Champ in fact,but he lost some when he was old and not so good ,anyway you have fair points too ty for a little discussion ,its not common on this forum.

                  btw i think Tony could out jab Hagler if he wont get lazy with it ,he had very difficoult jab to defend from.
                  I'm asking you in which fight did Toney show he could do anything with Hagler?

                  I think there's no chance in hell that Toney out jabs Hagler. Hagler would land the southpaw jab at will, Toney doesn't know how to defend a jab.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    Toney's boxing skills are even more overrated.

                    What did Toney show you when he was on form that suggests that he's on Hagler's level?

                    And yeah I think that is his father if I'm not mistaken in regards to Monroe.
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    I'm asking you in which fight did Toney show he could do anything with Hagler?

                    I think there's no chance in hell that Toney out jabs Hagler. Hagler would land the southpaw jab at will, Toney doesn't know how to defend a jab.
                    I cant tell you becouse Tony had no similar opponent to Hagler,and Hagler had no opponent like Toney i based my opinion on styles .

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      Toney's boxing skills are even more overrated.

                      What did Toney show you when he was on form that suggests that he's on Hagler's level?

                      And yeah I think that is his father if I'm not mistaken in regards to Monroe.
                      no he was willie's great uncle who beat hagler.

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