Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter Responds To Claims By Canelo, Golden Boy

[Scipio2009]

I seriously doubt they offered $10m, and Oscar is on record saying they want a flat rate. So they are offering GGG 0 upside on a ppv that could do over 1m+ buys.

The offer was apparently for 8 figures, and $10m is the lowest 8-figure number I can think of.

Even if Alvarez-Golovkin does 1m PPV buys, how much money is Golovkin really missing out on?

1m PPVs at $70 per PPV (simple guess at the avg of $65/$75 PPV purchases) gets you to $70m in PPV revenue. Pay cable operators/HBO, and that number goes to $35m. Promoters take their share on the fight, and you're down to $30m.

Is Golovkin really worth more than a $10m/$20m share on the fight? I don't think so.

[Scipio2009]

We're about to find out, but that fight's not next. Jacobs/Golovkin is next.

Have fun with those negotiations, lol. So much for crying about Daniel Jacobs wanting too much money.

[Scipio2009]

why not just make the fight instead of dumping belts and talking nonsense all of the time?

Oscar's team Coke?

Because $3m is a terrible low-ball offer, and even $10m (according to Loeffler's reaction to the offer) may not be enough for Golovkin to take the fight either, lol.

HBO has openly abandoned the idea of ever taking Golovkin to PPV again, and K2 is walking away from such an offer. Team Golovkin is just as caught up in the coke then.

[Fetta]

Have fun with those negotiations, lol. So much for crying about Daniel Jacobs wanting too much money.

Triple GGG bringing out the Triple F's

Flip flop fans

[Scipio2009]

The contract offered one interim fight each - which was the Lemieux fight for Golovkin. Golovkin was also mandated to fight the Canelo / Cotto winner if he beat Lemieux. Agreeing to fight Ward would have pretty much killed all hope of Golovkin getting Canelo / Cotto. So yeah. It wasn't designed to make life easy for Golovkin ... not saying it was designed to be turned down, after all Ward himself had a schedule and an agenda, he had to promise HBO a major opponent if he wanted a contract and with 168 dominated by Haymon fighters and with no real 'names' anyway it had to be either Kovalev or Golovkin. Hence the window for Ward - Golovkin was always vanishingly small and, IMO at least, neither side is really to blame.

Golovkin was never going to fight Canelo/Cotto, especially after he made it clear that he wasn't going to go down in weight for either fight.

To try and act as if the fight was even really possible is hilarious.

Taking the Ward offer would've given Golovkin a for-sure chance at having two PPV events (with the second one actually being a fight worth PPV).

What has Golovkin done instead? Flopped with the Lemieux PPV, went back to regular HBO for the Wade fight (a bout that no one wanted), fought in the afternoon on regular HBO for the Brook fight, and has a date penciled in for another regular HBO date in November.

[Fetta]

A side sent the offer and b side coming up with excuses to make it difficult....what is NSB call that

[eco1]

Because $3m is a terrible low-ball offer, and even $10m (according to Loeffler's reaction to the offer) may not be enough for Golovkin to take the fight either, lol.

HBO has openly abandoned the idea of ever taking Golovkin to PPV again, and K2 is walking away from such an offer. Team Golovkin is just as caught up in the coke then.

the real truth is that Canelo looses badly.

[Boxing Logic]

This fight may generate $200,000,000. Offering GGG $10,000,000 is 5% of that. Who here thinks a 95/5 split is fair? Raise your hands. Anyone?

This is just like when Floyd offered Manny a $40,000,000 flat fee to fight him when they were in their primes. That is what duckers do when they don't want to make the fight, but want to blame it on the other side. Later on when Manny was old Floyd was willing to make real offers, and Manny made 3-4 times that much.

Now a couple weeks ago, Oscar said they would make GGG an offer of a flat fee, no PPV upside, when the time came to make the fight. Not only was this an admission, just like all the talk of next September by GGG, that they don't want to fight GBP until "the right time" next September, but it is also exactly what Floyd did to Manny when he had no intention of making the fight.

Canelo is not as big a star as Floyd was. GGG is not as big a star as Pacquiao was. But the relation between Canelo and GGG in terms of stardom is similar to the relationship between Floyd and Manny.

This fight will be made when Team Canelo actually wants it, and you will know they want it when they offer a 60/40 split, or maybe they can get Team GGG to settle for 65/35, even though that's essentially Canelo getting paid twice as much for generating numbers he can't even do half of without the help of GGG or at least someone like Cotto.

Until then, while GBP keep offering 95/5 splits, 90/10, that's just another way to duck the fight, and everyone with a brain who isn't a Fl0mo or a fan of El Pojo Rojo knows it.

For a smaller fight, when GGG was younger, you could say he should just take whatever is offered because he will be a bigger star afterwards. Take $1 mil instead of $4 mil. But GGG is already 34, there may not be another big fight like this for him, and taking $1 mil instead of $4 mil, meaning giving up $3 mil, is a lot different from taking $10 mil instead of $80 mil, and giving up $70 million dollars. Even if GGG wanted to do that, his wife and his promoter would never let him

[Billy T]

Most of you fight fans are true idiots. Neither Canelo or GGG are cowards, ducking, or scared. The promoters, lawyers, and managers are planning on the biggest pay day since Mayweather vs PAC. Hopefully, this time we will see a fight. I think that we will and I love both fighters. Neither runs, neither boxes from the outside, both have the ability to knock the other out. These two will be literally putting their lives and health on the line. I do not blame either for trying to get as much money as possible. This is very close to an even match so I also do not blame their trainers for trying to get an edge. The guys that really do not like each other are the two trainers. Here is to what will be a Hell of a fight. Also, SOG concentrate on Krusher. You have enough ahead of you. Again, two great fighters. No dancers, holders, or technical boxers in either of these fights. Boxing has a lot to look forward to in the next year.

[Boxing Logic]

That's a lie. They offered 8 figures plus PPV. GGG's people wanting more I have no problem with but let's get the facts straight people.

You serious? You serious???

http://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoy...-split--108479

Headline says... DE LA HOYA: FLAT FEE FOR GOLOVKIN TO FACE CANELO - NO MONEY SPLIT!

That was just 11 days ago bro. Come on bro. Come on. You serious? You serious???