Comments Thread For: Sergio Martinez: Canelo Made Smart Business Move With GGG

[aboutfkntime]

Sergio is done with the sport, he doesn't really care about boxing much. He said so himself, he just sometimes goes to fights and watches some of them. I think all the corruption and businessmen just made him sick. Took him forever to get recognized and some decent opponents himself.

Canelo dissappointed everyone, he was given multiple chances but it just got worse and worse. Fighting Liam Smith now is just Oscar De LaHoya telling all the fans "We tricked you all, we lied to you, but the casuals will still buy our shit fights."

And yet, you lined up happily for Wade, didn't you clown ?

stop crying b1tch !

[_Maxi]

This is true... But who is asking him now to back Canelo and Oscar, especially having in mind their behavior in the ring after the Khan fight. Because Sergio never shouted that "Argentinians have balls" only in order to vacate the day after. But, well, whatever...

Sergio is not backing Canelo and Oscar. Actually the opposite if you can read between lines.

[Redd Foxx]

Sergio is not backing Canelo and Oscar. Actually the opposite if you can read between lines.

He's not "backing" anyone. He said he thinks they made the smarter move and that it's not directly on Canelo, but the politics of the biz and that it's good he didn't compromise himself. Disagree with him if you like.

[kafkod]

Team Golovkin at one point said that Andre Ward didn't make financial sense. They all do it, they are all businessmen.

They were talking about moving up to a higher division, not about fighting a mandatory.

And a GGG fight would have made a lot more financial sense than what Canelo is doing now.

[PunchyPotorff]

Hey Cotto pulled the same crap when it came down to fight Canelo, making his queen diva demands because he was the A side like his cry baby fans were saying!three times it took cotto to finally man up! So Canelo has 2 more times before it equals that to fight GGG. i think it was a great move by Canelo,now he can demand big money and not slip with GGG, because it a very risky fight.

Yep. I think Cotto fans though... as much as we hear about Cotto being a diva... his fans will give him a free pass on anything most likely. Great fighter, yes. But also an insanely large ego.

[PunchyPotorff]

To be fair I've always called him a ****. Never liked Sergio.

I wasn't a fan of him blowing off Dmitry Pirog multiple times making excuses and then fighting the Darren Barkers & Macklins of the world and I wasn't a fan of him blowing off Golovkin making excuses. Sure, I understand he wanted a "money fight", but he just had a money fight in Chavez jr and a "gimmie" fight in Argentina against Murray (which obviously turned out to be a very tough fight for Sergio and lucky it was at home).

My point is - if Sergio didn't lose to Cotto the cluster**** that followed would never have happened. When Sergio vs Cotto was announced I preached nonstop how important it was Sergio wins or else we would end up with welterweights fighting for the lineal middleweight crown, which is exactly what happened.

So was he still a c word when he KOd Williams in 2? Just curious how far this goes.

[kafkod]

Anyone who says GGG didn't pay dues, at this point, is comical.

And even years ago, he had won WBA title and had multiple defenses via KO against top 10 ranked opp; Proksa, Macklin, Stevens, Rubio, Geale, Murray and Lemeiux were all legit ranked in the top 10 by ESPN, ring, etc. I'd really like to know what else GGG could have done to pay his dues over past 4-5 years other than fight app 3x per year, app 2x per year v top ten contenders and knock everybody out - to "pay his dues"

its really laughable

According to that tool he should have signed to fight Ward at 168, and either just before or just after fighting Ward - depending on how long it took Andre to be ready for him - he should have fought Canelo at 155, even though that option was never actually offered to him.

[PunchyPotorff]

The Chavez Jr. Fight was in September 2012 and Cotto was June 2014.... I wouldn't say he had just had his money fight.

Wasn't there a money and location dispute between he and Pirog? As I recall he wasn't willing to go to Russia because he was the more recognised fighter despite Russia being more lucrative location, I guess Macklin was a bum back then but he suddenly became a good fighter when Golovkin knocked him out.

My point is Sergio didn't do anything wrong, anyone in his position would have fought Cotto, Golovkin was still trying to fight Cotto when he dropped the WBC belt.

Agreed. Sergio gets way too much heat for as solid of a career as he had. And no one dismantled Williams any better... unless you count the motorcycle wreck.

[ИATAS]

So was he still a c word when he KOd Williams in 2? Just curious how far this goes.

Absolutely. I won a lot of money on that fight too, I predicted sergio by KO. The signs were there Williams chin was getting cracked (Kermit Cintron made his legs wobble before he leaped out the ring, Martinez was whooping him at times first fight).

Like I said, I never liked Sergio. That was my personal beef with the guy. His KO over Williams was phenomenal. His win over drunk Pavlik was solid. Outside of that, I didn't care for his MW reign very much and as stated, he caused this entire mess by losing to Cotto in the first place. On top of that, I really disliked his attitude towards Dmitry Pirog and later Golovkin. Just wasn't a fan of the guy or his style of fighting.

[ИATAS]

Wasn't there a money and location dispute between he and Pirog? As I recall he wasn't willing to go to Russia because he was the more recognised fighter despite Russia being more lucrative location, I guess Macklin was a bum back then but he suddenly became a good fighter when Golovkin knocked him out.

No there was no depute. Pirog wanted to fight Martinez, any time, anywhere - US, on HBO, whatever. Martinez & DiBella were only offering excuses "who the **** is dmitry Pirog", "he isn't known, he doesn't bring enough money to the table", etc etc and then of course Martinez was fine fighting complete unknown guys like Darren Barker & Macklin. Eventually, Pirog said, hey if you think I'm a no one and I don't bring money to the table, you can come fight in Russia for a ton of money from Russian promoters/investors. None of the offers Martinez/DiBella were interested in, since Pirog obviously was the biggest threat to him at the time.

My point is Sergio didn't do anything wrong, anyone in his position would have fought Cotto, Golovkin was still trying to fight Cotto when he dropped the WBC belt.

He didn't fight Pirog. Didn't fight Golovkin. Released nude pictures lol
I just don't like the guy.

And what do you mean Golovkin was trying to fight Cotto when he dropped the WBC belt? He dropped the WBC belt like four days before the Canelo fight. He was still Lineal Champion until he lost to Canelo, with or without the WBC title.