How viable is the PBC model?

[Sweet Jones]

Escalante vs. Roman from 2012. Better fight at a fraction of the cost.

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And in your world, that fight represents something that 'is comparable to Santa Cruz/Mares as far as significance of the fight and talent level of the fighters involved'?

Yeah, aight then.

[MasterPlan]

I think it will be fine. There has been no PBC related PPV this year. Something they're trying to get rid of.

[Finito2K]

And in your world, that fight represents something that 'is comparable to Santa Cruz/Mares as far as significance of the fight and talent level of the fighters involved'?

Yeah, aight then.

The name value of Mares-Santa Cruz made it significant. Seriously, neither guy can draw outside of Southern California.

As a fight fan, I want to watch a good fight. That can always be accomplished through good matchmaking.

Example:
Are Soto Karass and Kamagai ever getting into Canastota? No. But fans know they can expect a barnburner when they fight. Their first fight was in a dingy theatre in front of a crowd of 1,000.

Their rematch is now the co-feature to the Canelo-Smith PPV.

I'll pay for that rather than sit through garbage like Guerrero-Peralta or Angulo-Hernandez any day of the week

[Sweet Jones]

The name value of Mares-Santa Cruz made it significant. Seriously, neither guy can draw outside of Southern California.

As a fight fan, I want to watch a good fight. That can always be accomplished through good matchmaking.

Example:
Are Soto Karass and Kamagai ever getting into Canastota? No. But fans know they can expect a barnburner when they fight. Their first fight was in a dingy theatre in front of a crowd of 1,000.

Their rematch is now the co-feature to the Canelo-Smith PPV.

I'll pay for that rather than sit through garbage like Guerrero-Peralta or Angulo-Hernandez any day of the week

And PBC/PBC 'Light' already has more 'name value' fighters they could possibly match on that network than ESPN's current 'lowball-purses-for-has-beens-and-fringe contenders-and-pray-for-an-entertaining-bumfight' model that has done absolutely nothing to grow interest in or the profile of this sport we love.

Interesting that you insist on constantly mentioning the drawing power of Mares and LSC popularity as limited to just California, even though both have headlined multiple cards on Showtime prior to this and have been world champions. Not really sure how that helps your point at all.

But hey, if think it's a good idea to now have to PAY to see a rematch to a fight that was originally 'fought in a dingy theatre in front of a crowd of 1,000' between two fringe talents, then do you.

[Finito2K]

And PBC/PBC 'Light' already has more 'name value' fighters they could possibly match on that network than ESPN's current 'lowball-purses-for-has-beens-and-fringe contenders-and-pray-for-an-entertaining-bumfight' model that has done absolutely nothing to grow interest in or the profile of this sport we love.

Interesting that you insist on constantly mentioning the drawing power of Mares and LSC popularity as limited to just California, even though both have headlined multiple cards on Showtime prior to this and have been world champions. Not really sure how that helps your point at all.

But hey, if think it's a good idea to now have to PAY to see a rematch to a fight that was originally 'fought in a dingy theatre in front of a crowd of 1,000' between two fringe talents, then do you.

Still think this is viable?

http://www.espn.com/blog/dan-rafael/...xing-champions

[brettWall]

Not a bad model, but it's unsustainable like many people expected. If it can continue with some money-saving changes, what's there to complain about? Let's give them one more year and see if we'll finally see the fights fans want to see.

Right now most of the comeback fights of their fighters are long overdue. Nobody knows what's taking them so long to announce them.

[Deevel916]

Still think this is viable?

http://www.espn.com/blog/dan-rafael/...xing-champions

However, one outlet that has had the most significant PBC fights is NBC, which said Wednesday that it will not televise any other cards this year, either on the main network or its NBCSN cable network. Several dates for the remainder of the year have been canceled, including two December prime-time NBC cards and at least three NBCSN cards.

Not a good sign.

[soul_survivor]

Most of the top fighters on Haymons payroll have fought once this year, maybe 2 have had significant fights and most of them aren't even penciled in for the rest of the year.

I said this last year, if you can't provide the best possible match ups, people will not tune in, when that happens, tv channels lose interest and don't back the model anymore.

[Sweet Jones]

Still think this is viable?

http://www.espn.com/blog/dan-rafael/...xing-champions

What in that article changes or impacts this statement:

And PBC/PBC 'Light' already has more 'name value' fighters they could possibly match on that network than ESPN's current 'lowball-purses-for-has-beens-and-fringe contenders-and-pray-for-an-entertaining-bumfight' model that has done absolutely nothing to grow interest in or the profile of this sport we love.

How exactly does it reverse the fact that the pre-PBC business model for boxing was doing nothing to drive interest nor grow the sport?

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Im laughing at all the fighters who jumped ship to Haymon and now can't get a fight to save their lives and most likely will be free agents pretty freaking soon.