How viable is the PBC model?

[Finito2K]

Could you please list all the 'big money fights' that FNF has presented in the past 5-10 years that is comparable to Santa Cruz/Mares as far as significance of the fight and talent level of the fighters involved.

Thank you in advance for your response.

As I said earlier, FNF was never about big money fights. And with no house promoter, they were able to shop around and pic and choose they fights they wanted. They result was a better product on a dime budget.

Big money doesn't necessarily equate to a better product.

[Finito2K]

Oh, I see. You're one of those Praying-for-PBC's-and-Haymon's-Downfall-As-The-Old-Guard-Line-Their-Pockets-and-Let-Boxing-Die-in-the-Mainstream type of boxing 'fan'.

Good luck with that, G.

Hardly. I simply saw it on Twitter and found it funny. Furthermore, I've never met Haymon. Ergo, I have no reason to dislike him or anything he's doing.

[Sweet Jones]

As I said earlier, FNF was never about big money fights. And with no house promoter, they were able to shop around and pic and choose they fights they wanted. They result was a better product on a dime budget.

Big money doesn't necessarily equate to a better product.

Please list all the 'better products' that FNF has presented in the past 5-10 years that is comparable to Santa Cruz/Mares as far as significance of the fight and talent level of the fighters involved.

I'll wait.

[Hougigo]

Again, even a 'PBC Light' is STILL better positioned to provide big money fights on the ESPN platform than FNF was.

Explain this

[Sweet Jones]

Explain this

Not sure how it's not self-explanatory.

[al-Xander]

FNF is not about big money fights. It's about regularity. It's about fans getting their sure fix every Friday. It's also a platform for up and coming fighters to show their wares and get noticed. Fighters don't expect to get paid handsomely. Most of the fighters fight to build their resumes.

[Fetta]

Looks like the Guerrero fight had 507k viewers with a 0.15 in the 18-49 demo. For comparison in the same slot, UFC Fight Night had 1.9 million with a 0.8 in the 18-49 demo.

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/article...8-27-2016.html

So go watch UFC

[Hougigo]

Not sure how it's not self-explanatory.

What do you mean PBC lite will provide big money fights to ESPN. Like it's actually going to make ESPN money by getting companies to buy ad space or what?

Surely you don't mean a big purse for that fight because w/Haymon, Malignaggi vs Salka could be a big money fight because he'll just throw money at it since he's donw that w/ a majority of his fights

[Finito2K]

Escalante vs. Roman from 2012. Better fight at a fraction of the cost.

https://********/MKSyqbA_tUA

[Tomjas]

In general, sports are a pretty poor investment with negligible ROI

Obviously, there are exceptions but nothing I have seen from PBC suggests that this will be one of them and I reckon that the only ones to stand to benefit are Haymon himself and a couple of random fighters that were grossly overpaid for a bout or 2

From a fan's perspective, PBC has given us some good fights but there are some worrying signs e.g. Haymon didnt even bid on Wilder-Povetkin (and look where that has gotten us!), Jacobs is refusing to enforce his mandatory, stable fighters arent being matched with the best opponents whilst others are incredibly inactive.

Jury is still out but signs arent good