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  • killakali
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    #101
    Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
    Favorite network? Which favorite "network?" Are your referring to a channel or the brand PBC? Or the "network" channel NBC? I don't even watch television..

    Who's "everyone" I'd like to know!

    You're complaining like a girl. Americans used to criticize how brutal boxing was on free air. You wonder why the transition to cable was practical for boxing since it wasn't mainstream, hence viewer discretion advised. Surely you're intelligent enough to know the difference between a more ******* and private channel like HBO compared to a mainstream national channel? You do know the difference correct?

    The world of boxing is optimistic with the free air (every once in a while) under the PBC platform on national tv and especially primetime. Who wants to revisit the old days of criticism?

    Do you honestly believe there's no safety control? You make it sounds like boxing is now corrupt because covert safety measures are more ideal during this transition? You worry too much and sound naive... it's not a big deal.
    nah bro i just called you on your bull ish where you said that the PBC is improving safety by having fights stopped earlier. You got sonned when I told you about the Fonfara Clevery fight, poor Prichard Colon getting put in a coma on NBC and Peter Quillin almost killing that poor bastard from Australia. Its no different than HBO or Showtime just you are trying to put PBC on a pedestal that it isnt on and I called you on and everyone else in nsb did yesterday too telling you are talking nonsense.

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    • Lester Tutor
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      #102
      Originally posted by killakali
      nah bro i just called you on your bull ish where you said that the PBC is improving safety by having fights stopped earlier. You got sonned when I told you about the Fonfara Clevery fight, poor Prichard Colon getting put in a coma on NBC and Peter Quillin almost killing that poor bastard from Australia. Its no different than HBO or Showtime just you are trying to put PBC on a pedestal that it isnt on and I called you on and everyone else in nsb did yesterday too telling you are talking nonsense.
      Wtf is "earlier?" I was criticizing the count you nunce. I don't even know who you are defending or crying about. You're sayingthe ref was doing his job and I'm agreeing with you! The safety for broadcast primetime NBC was sneaky and smart by the whispers given to the ref earlier on....

      Its fun working you on PBC. It's a win win situation when talking about it with you!

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      • elfag
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        #103
        PBC and Haymond the advisor are separate.

        PBC is losing money, its just not Haymonds money.

        Haymond is still winning. PBC will go bankrupt most likely.

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        • killakali
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          #104
          Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
          Wtf is "earlier?" I was criticizing the count you nunce. I don't even know who you are defending or crying about. You're sayingthe ref was doing his job and I'm agreeing with you! The safety for broadcast primetime NBC was sneaky and smart by the whispers given to the ref earlier on....

          Its fun working you on PBC. It's a win win situation when talking about it with you!
          what a moron you are. read your original post. you said that pbc has different officiating than the other promoters

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            #105
            Originally posted by killakali
            what a moron you are. read your original post. you said that pbc has different officiating than the other promoters
            I didn't say that, and your misleading paraphrasing sucks too. I'm glad you like PBC too.

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            • killakali
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              #106
              Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
              I didn't say that, and your misleading paraphrasing sucks too. I'm glad you like PBC too.
              Here is your exact post cut and pasted:

              Today's broadcast.

              1. Orlando
              2. Corona commercial featuring Santa Cruz, Garcia, and Wilder!
              3. Soft-core counts. Wasn't paying attention on the card rules for standing 8-counts, but PBC is doing responsible regulation and safety from fighters. Perhaps that's one draw back from the brutal fights you'll see on private networks. The general exposure for most of the fighters tonight still provides broader promotion. It's the best card of course, but for free on 4K TVs and having stateside sports just force the broadcast to the public for our sport is still dope.


              You said PBC is handling the regulation and safety of the fighters. Nuff said. Dumbest comment of the year bar none. Good night now.

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                #107
                Originally posted by killakali
                Here is your exact post cut and pasted:

                Today's broadcast.

                1. Orlando
                2. Corona commercial featuring Santa Cruz, Garcia, and Wilder!
                3. Soft-core counts. Wasn't paying attention on the card rules for standing 8-counts, but PBC is doing responsible regulation and safety from fighters. Perhaps that's one draw back from the brutal fights you'll see on private networks. The general exposure for most of the fighters tonight still provides broader promotion. It's the best card of course, but for free on 4K TVs and having stateside sports just force the broadcast to the public for our sport is still dope.


                You said PBC is handling the regulation and safety of the fighters. Nuff said. Dumbest comment of the year bar none. Good night now.
                Yes the counts were soft core. Are you the refs nephew? Did it bother you? You love PBC just like me. Responsible safty for fighters. If I want to watch more blood and gore and more traditional counting I can wacth HBO. What's the problem my son?

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                • killakali
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
                  Yes the counts were soft core. Are you the refs nephew? Did it bother you? You love PBC just like me. Responsible safty for fighters. If I want to watch more blood and gore and more traditional counting I can wacth HBO. What's the problem my son?
                  Tv network and or promoter doesn't control the ref or commission pendejo. Those are just facts. It's the same inconsistent reffing we always get. That's why poor Prichard Colon is still in a coma from rabbit punches on an nbc PBC show marica.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by killakali
                    Tv network and or promoter doesn't control the ref or commission pendejo. Those are just facts. It's the same inconsistent reffing we always get. That's why poor Prichard Colon is still in a coma from rabbit punches on an nbc PBC show marica.
                    Colon and Blackwell shared the same issues from their corners, and unfortunately with boxing brain injuries swelling can numb senses when they are most important. Some boxers can verbally give up to the ref or they'd their corners to do something as they stare in that direction for instructions, usually after or during the count.

                    If a boxer is still running the juice the only thing a ref can do is ask if the boxer can continue or consult his corner for soon stoppage.

                    Now that is all completely irrelevant during a sequence of punch drunk madness of flash or hard knockdowns. I think Fonfara could've kept on. The first punch flush on the chin for the first knockdown blew the wind out of him. The second sequence is when he get caught by 2-3 hit on the upper part of his head. He got caught, and Smith Jr. Is heavy handed. Now, we've seen thousands of fights on these sequences.

                    Refs are aware of the culture of boxing and safety practices, and they're also aware of dramas and repercussions if something goes wrong, ESPECIALLY now that boxing is being aired on a mainstream and national cast. You're naive if the ref isn't aware of the circumstances or doesn't hear consulting from the network, promoter, or commission.

                    I still don't know what you're debating. As I said, PBC is doing a good job with safety for a more appropriate responsibility. This is boxing, and its continuing to evolve mainstream atm, so please don't be naive that any slight consulting for safety isn't possible.

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                    • Eastcoast
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                      #110
                      Why would a network pay big money for the PBC? Their infrastructure is a joke and they have a bunch of overpaid fighters who don't fight often and balk about any tough match-ups.


                      If a network wants to get into boxing, stay independent and just buy good fights....

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