How viable is the PBC model?

[Lester Tutor]

you are now officially the biggest moron on this site. do yourself a favor and log off. The quillin fight where he put the Australian in the hospital was nbc smh.

Now you are saying that referees judge fights differently depending on what network is airing the fight? lmaooooo do yourself and all of us a favor and jump off a really high bridge

I never said anything about the rules. Lol. I'll make it plain and simple for you..

A chimp is sitting on a chair and observing two monitors.... one monitor is showing Fonfara vs Smith Jr. on primetime national free air where any kid can tune in... the other is Pac vs Marquez 1 on HBO... classic for its "viewer discretion advised" ...

Now compare Rd 1s...and the politics and power play of networks and money's worth. When the commission and promoters advise the ref of the circumstances and safety you don't agree boxing is getting better?

I don't know what hole you're choosing to fall into, but any way you read it I'm making you acknowledge the richness of PBC, and in case you haven't noticed, boxing's safety and its refs continue to improve with better stoppage.

I'm happy that you love PBC. Now give the chimp the banana. He's staring at you.

[Scipio2009]

hbo has the same access to sauerlands example, why does zurdo ramirez have arthur abrahams belt so they can get braehmer, also access to joe smith jr (same promoter as yuniesky gonzalez),shabranskyy, bhop, the rematch, eric skoglund who is fighting ward next, any of hearns guys, seanie monaghan, jesse hart etc.

HBO standing 12 deep right now

Please point to a single fight by Yuniesky Gonzalez that was promoted by Star Boxing, lol. And blankedly trying to say "Hearn's guys", as if Eddie Hearn doesn't already have a home broadcaster the gets the most of his business with an already good US in with Haymon, is rich.

At 175, HBO currently has the Kovalev rematch, Shabranskyy (if the money can be put together), Sean Monaghan, and Eric Skoglund (if that fight actually happens, as you're the only person I've seen even rumor at that.

Just for argument's sake, list out these 12 options that HBO has at 175.

[killakali]

His minimum was $32 mil and the rest came from his co-promotion. Everybody knows that. Once again. You keep saying I'm wrong but you won't post anything to prove I'm wrong. If I'm wrong I'll admit it. But I need some proof. So far you have nothing but speculation. Did Main Events get paid yes. They get a percentage. What was the percentage? Who paid them? How much total did they get? You claimed it was $600,000 but you've yet to show me any proof of that number. I really don' t see the point of continuing this conversation if you have nothing to back up your claims.

rns and main events came to an agreement. hbo paid them. ward didn't lol. just like when bradley came off his 2 mil mini to fight vargas. took 1.6.

or when it was reported that jm marquez got 1.9 mil for mike alvarado when he had made another 1mil off mexican tv rights. you never ever go off of state athletic commission numbers

[killakali]

I never said anything about the rules. Lol. I'll make it plain and simple for you..

A chimp is sitting on a chair and observing two monitors.... one monitor is showing Fonfara vs Smith Jr. on primetime national free air where any kid can tune in... the other is Pac vs Marquez 1 on HBO... classic for its "viewer discretion advised" ...

Now compare Rd 1s...and the politics and power play of networks and money's worth. When the commission and promoters advise the ref of the circumstances and safety you don't agree boxing is getting better?

I don't know what hole you're choosing to fall into, but any way you read it I'm making you acknowledge the richness of PBC, and in case you haven't noticed, boxing's safety and its refs continue to improve with better stoppage.

I'm happy that you love PBC. Now give the chimp the banana. He's staring at you.

you said that pbc is influencing the refs and commissions so that we don't get these bloodbaths like provodnikov and i keep schooling you and giving you examples of pbc bloodbaths and explain how pbc or any other promoter has zero influence on what the refs allow to take place

[killakali]

Please point to a single fight by Yuniesky Gonzalez that was promoted by Star Boxing, lol. And blankedly trying to say "Hearn's guys", as if Eddie Hearn doesn't already have a home broadcaster the gets the most of his business with an already good US in with Haymon, is rich.

At 175, HBO currently has the Kovalev rematch, Shabranskyy (if the money can be put together), Sean Monaghan, and Eric Skoglund (if that fight actually happens, as you're the only person I've seen even rumor at that.

Just for argument's sake, list out these 12 options that HBO has at 175.

for one Hearn does some business with Haymon, not a lot. Most of his business is done in the UK. Who is Hearn working with right now for the Kell Brook fight? Thought so.

I read about the Skoglund fight on Big Dan Rafael's chat friday. Yuniesky Gonzalez has been on lots of Star's NY shows. I read he's fighting a tune up in FL then coming back on an HBO card.

So HBO's 12 options at light heavyweight are Kovalev rematch, Shabranskky, Monaghan, Skoglund, Mehtomev, Gvodzyk (who ko'd Mohammedi faster than Kovey did), Joe Smith Jr, Gilberto Ramirez, Jesse Hart, Brahemer, Barrera rematch, Pascal. It isn't better on the PBC I keep telling you. It is close to the same.

[Lester Tutor]

you said that pbc is influencing the refs and commissions so that we don't get these bloodbaths like provodnikov and i keep schooling you and giving you examples of pbc bloodbaths and explain how pbc or any other promoter has zero influence on what the refs allow to take place

So give me all the "bloodbaths" on Primetime NBC. And thanks for supporting PBC. I enjoy it too.

[killakali]

So give me all the "bloodbaths" on Primetime NBC. And thanks for supporting PBC. I enjoy it too.

why do you say primetime nbc. wait, does pbc instruct the refs to let the bounce or spike or other cable tv channels go longer and to stop the fights faster when they are on network tv? lmaooooooooo lmaoooooooooo lmaoooooooo. You really are a dumb fvuck.

Let's see Prichard Colon nearly died and is still in a coma from a fight on PBC network tv and the guy Quillin ko'd that had to be immediately rushed to the hospital after a brutal was on network tv as well. smh I can't tell if you're a nut-hugger troll or just not the sharpest tool in the shed. Hopefully the latter so it would explain your lack of intelligence.

[Lester Tutor]

why do you say primetime nbc. wait, does pbc instruct the refs to let the bounce or spike or other cable tv channels go longer and to stop the fights faster when they are on network tv? lmaooooooooo lmaoooooooooo lmaoooooooo. You really are a dumb fvuck.

Let's see Prichard Colon nearly died and is still in a coma from a fight on PBC network tv and the guy Quillin ko'd that had to be immediately rushed to the hospital after a brutal was on network tv as well. smh I can't tell if you're a nut-hugger troll or just not the sharpest tool in the shed. Hopefully the latter so it would explain your lack of intelligence.

This whole time you didn't realize "primetime" even though its been constantly said. You do realize that in Television "primetime" is the most expensive slot and most ratings? National broadcasting ala primetime vs people bring up other cable channels and the whole thread is based on PBC and its model. Lol

[killakali]

This whole time you didn't realize "primetime" even though its been constantly said. You do realize that in Television "primetime" is the most expensive slot and most ratings? National broadcasting ala primetime vs people bring up other cable channels and the whole thread is based on PBC and its model. Lol

i did realize but it doesn't matter if its prime time or during the day. Any kid, woman, family etc could have easily watched Prichard Colon get fouled and the ref do nothing about it then hear about when they took him to the locker room and he started throwing up and had to be rushed to the hospital. That was all said before he went into a coma and nearly died. You originally said on your post that they were stopping fights early and not having blood baths like ruslan provodnikov and were safety first unlike hbo and showtime fights. I haven't seen any hbo or showtime fighters in a coma last year or this. And that vicious KO Peter Quillin scored on that Australian waiter where they showed him getting loaded in the ambulance on your favorite "network tv" was horrible. What is worse is that the commission approved that horrid mismatch. You were trying to act like the pbc has some authority as to how long fights go on before they are stopped. Thats why yesterday everyone else in this thread was making fun of you for your dumb comments

[Lester Tutor]

i did realize but it doesn't matter if its prime time or during the day. Any kid, woman, family etc could have easily watched Prichard Colon get fouled and the ref do nothing about it then hear about when they took him to the locker room and he started throwing up and had to be rushed to the hospital. That was all said before he went into a coma and nearly died. You originally said on your post that they were stopping fights early and not having blood baths like ruslan provodnikov and were safety first unlike hbo and showtime fights. I haven't seen any hbo or showtime fighters in a coma last year or this. And that vicious KO Peter Quillin scored on that Australian waiter where they showed him getting loaded in the ambulance on your favorite "network tv" was horrible. What is worse is that the commission approved that horrid mismatch. You were trying to act like the pbc has some authority as to how long fights go on before they are stopped. Thats why yesterday everyone else in this thread was making fun of you for your dumb comments

Favorite network? Which favorite "network?" Are your referring to a channel or the brand PBC? Or the "network" channel NBC? I don't even watch television..

Who's "everyone" I'd like to know!

You're complaining like a girl. Americans used to criticize how brutal boxing was on free air. You wonder why the transition to cable was practical for boxing since it wasn't mainstream, hence viewer discretion advised. Surely you're intelligent enough to know the difference between a more ******* and private channel like HBO compared to a mainstream national channel? You do know the difference correct?

The world of boxing is optimistic with the free air (every once in a while) under the PBC platform on national tv and especially primetime. Who wants to revisit the old days of criticism?

Do you honestly believe there's no safety control? You make it sounds like boxing is now corrupt because covert safety measures are more ideal during this transition? You worry too much and sound naive... it's not a big deal.