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  • Jubei
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    #61
    2 cowards, 2 divas unified.

    They probably "fight" each other again in September and some ******s might actually watch. Real boxing fans already moved on and support real fighters.

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    • elfag
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      #62
      Cotto is just kissing Canela's ass. Guarantee that we see Canela-Cotto 2 this fall.

      JMM is injured and Arum is already *****ing up a storm that they want too much money for that fight. Canela-Cotto 2 makes both of them the most in ppv sales. Theyre betting everyone will forgotten how boring the last fight was.

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      • Sledgeweather17
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        #63
        Originally posted by LOCOMEX89
        It's true. Cotto is spot on for their 2 be a possible 6 different champions per division is ridiculous. The fact that he almost paid over a million to fight Canelo before he even got in the ring is even more ridiculous.

        In boxing the belts are losing their luster and meaning. These sanctioning bodies need to merge to create one true champion per division. This would help boxing get its credibility back where it should be.
        I honestly think that's crap! If that happened then there would be no unification bouts. Unification bouts make fights bigger, better, and more interest. To hear of a champion fighting another champion, that's incredible.

        The idea of a guy beating champion after champion in order to become the undisputed champ. That's amazing man. Like Wilder fighting Joshua, or Joshua fighting Fury, or Wilder vs Fury. When this happens, it will blow everyone away.

        The only thing that ruins it is not the belt organisations in my opinion but the promoters who want their fighters to sit on one belt and keep it hostage instead of unifying titles, and of course cowardly and ungrateful bums like Cotto who are basically complaining about fighting a mandatory and unifying titles, and praising others for doing the same.

        Most of the time in life I've noticed that in most cases it is not the system itself that is faulty, but the corrupt people inside the system that make it so.

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        • OnePunch
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          #64
          Originally posted by hitking
          Technically, Cotto is correct. For a very long time, the ABC groups' policy dictated that beltholders from other groups were not recognized in the rankings. Where Cotto loses me is how he claims the situation with the WBC and GGG as adding to boxing's corruption. To me, its the total opposite. In my time as a boxing fan, the term "mandatory" has often been associated with guy that even hardcore fight fans have never heard of. And a guy that no credible boxing outfit could legitimately deem the #1 challenger to the supposed best fighter in the world. And often times fighters were praised for dumping belts, as opposed to fighting a meaningless mandatory. In this instance, the WBC is doing the right thing. They've ranked the guy that is clearly the best fighter in the division not holding their title, and made him the mandatory challenger. Regardless that he holds belts in other organizations. That's a step in the right direction. And for Cotto to criticize that is ridiculous.

          Many years ago, belts became pretty much irrelevant in my own lil boxing universe. Everything with me is eye test and resume. Cotto and Canelo's stances with the WBC middleweight belt never bothered me because for one, I don't care about the belt. Secondly, both guys' resumes make me view them as jr middleweights. So it ia what it is.

          The WBC took a good step with this move. The WBA is also talking about reducing some of the ridicuous amounts of beltholdera they have out there. Those are small steps. But for someone like me that's seen multiple decades of corruption from these groups, along with the IBF and more recently the WBO. Its gonna take more than a couple credible moves for me to take them seriously again.

          they only did it because GGG happened to beat Rubio, who was the WBC interim champ. Had Rubio not been WBC interim champ, GGG would not have ever been named mando by the WBC. And what Cotto seems to get amnesia about is that if not for Rubio fighting GGG, Cotto maybe doesnt get the martinez fight. It was all a a part of that deal the WBC made for Rubio when the WBC screwed up the Chavez post fight tests.......

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          • Don Pichardo
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            #65
            Originally posted by OnePunch
            lol @ Cotto accusing someone else of "hurting boxing's credibility".

            look in a mirror lately, Miguel??
            ? Is there anyone cotto has not fought or ducked. No. He's fought everybody and gave it his all, win lose or draw. Can't say that about many In the sport. Please don't bring up ggg, red k is Guaranteed. Canelo was too big so is ggg. It would be like bringing up ggg vs Floyd like some of this azz clowns do on this site.

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            • STREET CLEANER
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              #66
              The WBC don't rate other champions in their top ten and don't like unifications.

              But in the triple G case they will keep him as the mando to milk it.

              They will bend their rules to the most profitable outcome. Look how long Floyd held their titles

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              • Don Pichardo
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                #67
                Originally posted by Pigeons
                The are 4 sanctioning bodies (WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO) recognizing 5 champions per weight class (WBA Super, WBA Regular, WBC, IBF, WBO). With 17 weight classes in boxing, that makes 85 champions. And that's before we start counting interim champions (there are currently 14), in recess champions, emeritus champions, etc. And that's before even getting into minor bodies like the IBO, IBA, etc.

                85 champions in boxing. Most of the dumb****s on this forum can't even name 85 boxers. And we have 85 champions. Miguel Cotto has a point.

                With that said, that is no reason to avoid the #1 MW in the world. Those are two different arguments entirely.
                A 20 pound weight disparity isn't reason enough?? I concur with the rest of your post however.

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                • LOCOMEX89
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
                  I honestly think that's crap! If that happened then there would be no unification bouts. Unification bouts make fights bigger, better, and more interest. To hear of a champion fighting another champion, that's incredible.

                  The idea of a guy beating champion after champion in order to become the undisputed champ. That's amazing man. Like Wilder fighting Joshua, or Joshua fighting Fury, or Wilder vs Fury. When this happens, it will blow everyone away.

                  The only thing that ruins it is not the belt organisations in my opinion but the promoters who want their fighters to sit on one belt and keep it hostage instead of unifying titles, and of course cowardly and ungrateful bums like Cotto who are basically complaining about fighting a mandatory and unifying titles, and praising others for doing the same.

                  Most of the time in life I've noticed that in most cases it is not the system itself that is faulty, but the corrupt people inside the system that make it so.
                  True but how often are unification fights made ? Once or maybe twice a year. That's why the UFC has the right model because no matter what the best fight the best. In our sport we don't get that nearly enough.

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                  • Don Pichardo
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by turnedup
                    LMAO does he really want to get into what's hurting boxing...like for real real? Maybe we can start way back when they dangled a check in front of an ailing Martinez which had he not would've eliminated all that has unfolded since. Names buying titles is what's hurting the sport, promoters buying their fighters titles is what's hurting the sport, those same champions don't go on to be champions for the most part, they become overnight businessmen.
                    Dangling a Check ? I distinctly recall Martinez literally begging to fight cotto.

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                    • Adonis Creed
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                      #70
                      Cotto makes no sense here first he talks about all the champs in boxing but that has nothing to do with GGG who is trying to unify so there will be one champion in the division.

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