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  • Zaroku
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    #41
    Originally posted by Rath
    Floyd lied when he said he was fine, but really in life threatening dehydration.
    Floyd isn't being sued TR and PAC are. If you want to sue Floyd, you should. Nobody is stopping you, get an attorney to file a civil claim that Floyd wasn't dehydrated. See how far that suit goes, it would be dismissed immediately.

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    • Zaroku
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      #42
      Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
      Class action salt water healing
      LMFAO

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        #43
        Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
        You obviously didn't understand the article.
        No he didn't! PAC-A-Maniacs don't realize that people bet money, they want to bet based on facts. They don't want fake injury reports after the game.

        Look at the NFL & NBA, people who bet, bookies, casinos can lose a lot if facts are not disclosed. The whole hanicapping process and odds are greatly impacted.

        We got a lot of ****** mofo's on this site.

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          #44
          Originally posted by radioraheem
          Exactly, the excuse came back to bite them badly. They should have just been silent. There was too much money on the line, worldwide, over that fight.
          Exactly, but PAC was embarrassed, and Bob lied for him, now the lawsuits

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            #45
            Originally posted by Triple Juice
            BREAKING NEWS: Top Rank counter sues the Showtime for allowing Mayweather to use more than 50 ml IV before the fight!
            It what you say is true, show links. Then I can address it.

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              #46
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
              Whoever came up with the injury excuse ****ed up real good.
              Both PAC and Arum have a two headed ***** stuck up their azz's!
              Lying doesn't pay. They lied before the fight or after the fight. This will be the key issue.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                I'm amazed at how much was spent on fighting these dumbass lawsuits. How is it even a thing you can sue over a guy not disclosing an injury?

                This happens all the time in combat sports cuz it'd be really f#cking ****** to say how your right hand has been bothering you going into a fight for obvious reasons. And where is the boundary drawn with this sorta ****.

                Can I sue Netflix & Kevin Spacey if Spacey told were to tell Entertainment Weekly that during the most recent season of House of Cards he was really sick & didn't think he acted to the best of his ability?

                Can I sue fast food restaurants cuz clearly someone is always having a bad day there cuz that **** ain't looked like it does in the commercial since 1952?

                Prove damages? Maybe you can. But, gamblers in Nevada can prove damages, if they knew PAC was injured before, they may not have bet $$$$ on him. They lost $$$. Which equals damages.

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                • Zaroku
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Fetta
                  But they said it was real.

                  'Oh, what a tangled web we weave...when first we practice to deceive.'
                  What he said!

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                    My understanding was this was people who purchased the PPV wanting to get there $100 back not guys wanting to get their Manny wagers back either exclusively or at least mostly. Am I incorrect in that assumption?
                    This lawsuit is a mix of people who feel they would not have bought the fight knowing Manny was injured (because as I said, there'd be no way Manny could win under that situation) and people who lost money. But remember, many people who went to the fight did so because they intended to bet on the fight. Not because they just wanted to be entertained.

                    In other words, buying the ticket led to damages due to information not being provided that would have skewed the bookie numbers. Thus they want their ticket money back plus damages (which basically gets them their bet money back).

                    They're gaming the legal system, basically. Only because it's Vegas. This wouldn't fly in Atlantic City.


                    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                    The Manny fanboys vs Floyd fanboys part of all this is the least interesting part of it for me. The real or fake injury is the second least interesting part of this to me.

                    Mainly I just find it interesting there is an expectation a boxer needs to disclose an injury before a fight, call off a fight or risk being sued for not disclosing an injury choice going on. And if thats a legit reason to sue either for PPV money, ticket prices or some other funds spent towards a fight like sports wagers or other things there are plenty of fights in the past where you could sue fighters who've after a loss have admitted to injuries. This is not a rare thing what Manny has done, regardless if it was a legit pre-fight injury or an excuse.
                    There's a form. The fighter is required to attest that they are not injured. Manny or Koncz or whoever, said "no" on that question - implying Manny was NOT injured.

                    First of all that's technically damning against Manny. The reason they do that is to avoid these very lawsuits and ensure that the promoters don't get nailed on the back end. So yes, there is an expectation and always has been.

                    Second, even if the injury was an old, re-aggravated injury, you're still required to disclose you have it and what you do to deal with it. Manny didn't ask about the shot until the night of the fight - what were they supposed to do? He said on a form he wasn't hurt and then the night of the fight asks for a pain killing (read: body numbing) shot. That's suspect, and it makes you wonder if that's how he's been able to walk through so many other fighters' punches yet got domesticated by Floyd who was barely trying.

                    This wouldn't have been a problem if that form was marked properly. The people would still have bought the fight (I don't care what they say, they would have). The outcome would have been the same - TBE schooling Manny - and Manny would actually have a valid excuse, that he was injured. A rematch would have been likely, another schooling, but this time no injury.

                    But at least you wouldn't have had this lawsuit fiasco going on and Manny's rep destroyed over lying.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Zaroku
                      Prove damages? Maybe you can. But, gamblers in Nevada can prove damages, if they knew PAC was injured before, they may not have bet $$$$ on him. They lost $$$. Which equals damages.
                      So anytime a fighter discloses post-fight that he had some injury, drastic weight loss situation or anything that could potentially make him less than 100% on fight night that he didn't disclose pre-fight there is a potential lawsuit? Thats insane to me.

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