Comments Thread For: Showtime Sues Top Rank: Mayweather-Pacquiao Legal Fee Dispute

[ShoulderRoll]

But the injury was fake doe

It probably was but they decided to use it as an excuse to save face and now they have to pay the price.

[Fetta]

But the injury was fake doe

But they said it was real.

'Oh, what a tangled web we weave...when first we practice to deceive.'

[North Star]

I'm amazed at how much was spent on fighting these dumbass lawsuits. How is it even a thing you can sue over a guy not disclosing an injury?

This happens all the time in combat sports cuz it'd be really f#cking ****** to say how your right hand has been bothering you going into a fight for obvious reasons. And where is the boundary drawn with this sorta ****.

Can I sue Netflix & Kevin Spacey if Spacey told were to tell Entertainment Weekly that during the most recent season of House of Cards he was really sick & didn't think he acted to the best of his ability?

Can I sue fast food restaurants cuz clearly someone is always having a bad day there cuz that **** ain't looked like it does in the commercial since 1952?

Exactly. How many fighters go into fights with injuries, and say something about it afterwards? Can fans now submit lawsuits for every fight due to a pre-existing injury?

All athletes come in with some form of ailment and are hardly ever 100%, not just in boxing but in every competitive sport. What, now fans can start suing teams because a star player is injured and can't play, so the team can't perform to it's full ability? Give me a break!

[Eff Pandas]

But the injury was fake doe

To me how legit the injury was or wasn't isn't relevant.

The fact you can be sued over an injury in the first place + that the expectation is you either must cancel a fight or publicly disclose all your injuries that could impact your performance is f#cking ******ed. I don't care where a person lands on the Floyd vs Manny fault line thats f#cking ******ed.

[MrRolltide91]

I'm amazed at how much was spent on fighting these dumbass lawsuits. How is it even a thing you can sue over a guy not disclosing an injury?

This happens all the time in combat sports cuz it'd be really f#cking ****** to say how your right hand has been bothering you going into a fight for obvious reasons. And where is the boundary drawn with this sorta ****.

Can I sue Netflix & Kevin Spacey if Spacey told were to tell Entertainment Weekly that during the most recent season of House of Cards he was really sick & didn't think he acted to the best of his ability?

Can I sue fast food restaurants cuz clearly someone is always having a bad day there cuz that **** ain't looked like it does in the commercial since 1952?

If showtime wins, then obviously they aint wrong

[Combat Talk Radio]

This brings a smile to my face.

Ditto.

So showtime is suing because pacquiao was injured? So fu cking ******. whats the point?

Showtime is suing because they got sued over something totally not their fault and having nothing to do with them.

If you go into business with a guy who takes your money and buys stolen merchandise, guess what? You're on the hook too if he can prove that it's your money.

To me how legit the injury was or wasn't isn't relevant.

The fact you can be sued over an injury in the first place + that the expectation is you either must cancel a fight or publicly disclose all your injuries that could impact your performance is f#cking ******ed. I don't care where a person lands on the Floyd vs Manny fault line thats f#cking ******ed.

This issue happened because ******** is legal in Vegas. Were it not to have happened in Vegas there'd be no grounds for a lawsuit.

All you have to prove in a lawsuit is that you lost money you really shouldn't have.

Let's assume Manny was injured before the fight, and thus tainted...and he and Roach and Arum knew it. That effectively means the fight was fixed in Floyd's favor because Manny was never going to win with an injured shoulder. Had he disclosed that he was fighting hurt, people would not have bet on him, much less bought tickets. That he didn't disclose makes it SEEM like Manny and Floyd were in cahoots to rip people off.

But, let's assume (as I and many others do) that Manny hurt his shoulder DURING the fight missing punches. He straight up lied after the fight and to this day is still telling the same lie. He fought tentative during the fight, evasive after the fight, talking about some salt water...it sounds grimy and people felt ripped off.

As Floyd says, "No matter how you...cut it, slice it or dice it...", Manny should never have used the shoulder excuse. If he'd just said "the better man won", this all would have been fine. It's Manny's fault this is happening.

[aboutfkntime]

Exactly. How many fighters go into fights with injuries, and say something about it afterwards? Can fans now submit lawsuits for every fight due to a pre-existing injury?

If they lie about it, then yea..... false pretense.

All athletes come in with some form of ailment and are hardly ever 100%, not just in boxing but in every competitive sport. What, now fans can start suing teams because a star player is injured and can't play, so the team can't perform to it's full ability? Give me a break!

The issue is not being injured, it's lying about it ^^

[Rath]

If they lie about it, then yea..... false pretense.





The issue is not being injured, it's lying about it ^^

Floyd lied when he said he was fine, but really in life threatening dehydration.

[Eff Pandas]

This issue happened because ******** is legal in Vegas. Were it not to have happened in Vegas there'd be no grounds for a lawsuit.

All you have to prove in a lawsuit is that you lost money you really shouldn't have.

My understanding was this was people who purchased the PPV wanting to get there $100 back not guys wanting to get their Manny wagers back either exclusively or at least mostly. Am I incorrect in that assumption?

It's Manny's fault this is happening.

The Manny fanboys vs Floyd fanboys part of all this is the least interesting part of it for me. The real or fake injury is the second least interesting part of this to me.

Mainly I just find it interesting there is an expectation a boxer needs to disclose an injury before a fight, call off a fight or risk being sued for not disclosing an injury choice going on. And if thats a legit reason to sue either for PPV money, ticket prices or some other funds spent towards a fight like sports wagers or other things there are plenty of fights in the past where you could sue fighters who've after a loss have admitted to injuries. This is not a rare thing what Manny has done, regardless if it was a legit pre-fight injury or an excuse.

[Zaroku]

The guts of the plot is that after they lost they then disclose an excuse citing injury going into the fight and changed it later to it happened during , that double talk then makes them libel for a whole range of issues from people paying to watch it and from the betting side of things , both are class actions .

Manny and Co fcked up throwing out a BS excuse after the fact in a fight that generated that much money , the day before the fight Manny is telling his followers to put everything on him he will win , then he loses and just like he always does some time after the fact , invents an excuse , this time its going to bite them on the ass .

You are absolutely correct. But, TR and PAC are in an embarrassing position. Failing to report the injury on his NSAC official form, then he said he was injured 3 weeks before the fight, then PAC lied and changed it yet again that it happened during the fight. Any attorney would shred PAC and Bob on the stand because of these prior inconsistent statements. Bob should not have made PAC lie, or PAC shouldn't have lied. Lawsuits against TR and PAC galore. Only pure t@rds can't see it. They call PAC heroic etc. **** PAC. Should have taken that loss like he did when Bradley got that fake victory.