Comments Thread For: Eddie Hearn Critical of Al Haymon and PBC Business Model

[Eastcoast]

WTF?

Eddie doesnt promote Frampton

All Eddie does is give us mistmatches, i.e Brook vs Bum, Jousha vs Bum..

I know, I know. I got caught up in the argument that Frampton was avoiding Rigo when he's instead fighting LSC. I still remember Eddie standing behind Quigg at the weigh-in, at the same time towering over Frampton, looking like a bully. Carl had some fun stuff to say about Hearn during that build up.


Say what you will about Hearn, he's keeping boxing alive and well in the UK. Warren built the careers of Calzaghe & Hatton using a similar model.

[bigdunny1]

He is right. Look at last night once again PBC ratings drop. FOX way less ratings then their debut and again a network airing PBC finishes dead last in network prime time ratings.

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/article...4-30-2016.html

Fell from a 2.3m viewers to about 1.5m. Horrible these networks air reruns of old tv shows and get better ratings.

[Teetotaler]

Eddie hearn is just racist

[pugil1st]

Pbc 3 non competitive fights. Thats was casual boxing fans want. Short night for boxing. Showtime had the better fights easily.

The Showtime fights were PBC.

[Chollo Vista]

Let's have a look at Kell Brook's recent opponents and see if Hearn doesn't have a similar business model:


Kevin Bizier
Frankie Gavin
Ionut Dan Ion
Shawn Porter
Alvaro Robles
Vyacheslav Senchenko
Carson Jones
Hector David Saldivia
Carson Jones
Matthew Hatton

[Unseen]

Frampton isn't with Hearn. If it wasn't for Al the Frampton-Quigg fight wouldn't have happened. Hearn had been trying to make that fight for a while. Hearn even admitted the fight got made because of Haymon.

Haymon is a threat to all promoters because he's a former promoter and knows the revenue streams. When Floyd signed with Al he showed Floyd how the promoters were working. That's why Floyd called HBO's contract "slave wages". Everybody said Floyd was crazy but in the end he was right.

I don't know where everyone gets the idea that Haymon doesn't have to worry about making money out recouping there investment. That is not how business works. Most of those claims are based in racism. If Arum or some white guy got a firm to invest in boxing they'd be lauded as great businessmen. Look at how many casinos the brothers that own UFC have bankrupted. Look at their past shady business dealings. Trump had bankrupted dozens of businesses and he's lauded as a great businessmen. Haymon's track record in business is spectacular. But a black man does something white people do everyday (get investment money to start a business) and he's supposedly doing something nefarious.

If this venture fails, it fails. It won't be there first big idea that fails. But I have a good feeling that PBC will be around as long as Matchroom and become bigger in the UK. Eddie is threatened because of Al's deals with boxnation and other competitors. And he can't get Kell a big fight. And Joshua knows America is where the big money is and where he can become an international superstar. Haymon is a threat to Hearn.

The UFC owners don't get credit for making money. They were slated here a few years a go when it was discovered they were 50 million in debt.

UFC the company however deserves praise because it actually is a promotion the world knows, but it took them a long time.


racism does come in to it, but I also see black people defend Al too, which I suspect is because he is black.

If it's true that he's spent 500Million on PBC, then I can't say that's a success at all.

Trump isn't lauded as a great businessman. His TV show gave that impression to many reality TV viewers, but people who do research generally think he's an idiot.


Haymon is a threat to Hearn though.

[sicko]

It is the same complaint from all of the other Promoters who want things to be the OLD WAY in which the Promoters would just *** OVER the Fighters and rob them blind. Haymon Formula does make that Difficult so yes I can understand why other Promoters are not happy with Haymon way of business

Is it Sustainable? Nobody knows because we truly don't know if he is making money or losing money. Everything about PBC is Speculation and Conspiracy Theories basically.

But yeah if I was a Promoter that wasn't involved with PBC I would feel the same way. It would probably feel like they're being forced out by a Big Corporation. Like a Bodega Owner feels when a Walmart is being Built in their Neighborhood

[al-Xander]

GTFO with this ****** nonsense and just admit you Haymon fanboys are only concerned about the well being of Haymon's top fighters and don't give a hoot about the Salka fighters, knowing that mismatches are extremely dangerous for the Salka fighter who had to fight hungry lions in their primes.

How much did Zerafa got in the Quillin fight? Probably 10K. Quillin got $1 million. Danny Garcia and Leo Santa Claus got $700K, $750K, for fighting Salka and sparring partners, respectively. How is this not dangerous for the Salka fighter, who gets paid significantly less?

And here you sermonize about brain damage and all that nonsense.

[Shadoww702]

Ed just steered Frampton to a LSC fight.

The difference between Haymon's model and Hearn's model is that Al doesn't have to worry about generating any revenue or even ratings.

How many people were in DC at the fights? 4,100. Pathetic. Good job Haymon.

Ortiz/Berto has a solid #'s. I even liked the fight...

[Shadoww702]

It is the same complaint from all of the other Promoters who want things to be the OLD WAY in which the Promoters would just *** OVER the Fighters and rob them blind. Haymon Formula does make that Difficult so yes I can understand why other Promoters are not happy with Haymon way of business

Is it Sustainable? Nobody knows because we truly don't know if he is making money or losing money. Everything about PBC is Speculation and Conspiracy Theories basically.

But yeah if I was a Promoter that wasn't involved with PBC I would feel the same way. It would probably feel like they're being forced out by a Big Corporation. Like a Bodega Owner feels when a Walmart is being Built in their Neighborhood

That's EXACTLY it!!! Half the time those POS promoters would buy the BARE minimum on insurance if a fighter gets hurt. Their insurance is up after the 1st 30mins in the Dr. office...The rest is Out of pocket by the fighter.