Comments Thread For: Eddie Hearn Critical of Al Haymon and PBC Business Model

[Can'tHoldMeBack]

Mr Eddie I like brook to fight nothing but cab drivers and Hackman for a living complaining about mismatches lol

[about.thousands]

Ed just steered Frampton to a LSC fight.

The difference between Haymon's model and Hearn's model is that Al doesn't have to worry about generating any revenue or even ratings.

How many people were in DC at the fights? 4,100. Pathetic. Good job Haymon.

Frampton isn't with Hearn. If it wasn't for Al the Frampton-Quigg fight wouldn't have happened. Hearn had been trying to make that fight for a while. Hearn even admitted the fight got made because of Haymon.

Haymon is a threat to all promoters because he's a former promoter and knows the revenue streams. When Floyd signed with Al he showed Floyd how the promoters were working. That's why Floyd called HBO's contract "slave wages". Everybody said Floyd was crazy but in the end he was right.

I don't know where everyone gets the idea that Haymon doesn't have to worry about making money out recouping there investment. That is not how business works. Most of those claims are based in racism. If Arum or some white guy got a firm to invest in boxing they'd be lauded as great businessmen. Look at how many casinos the brothers that own UFC have bankrupted. Look at their past shady business dealings. Trump had bankrupted dozens of businesses and he's lauded as a great businessmen. Haymon's track record in business is spectacular. But a black man does something white people do everyday (get investment money to start a business) and he's supposedly doing something nefarious.

If this venture fails, it fails. It won't be there first big idea that fails. But I have a good feeling that PBC will be around as long as Matchroom and become bigger in the UK. Eddie is threatened because of Al's deals with boxnation and other competitors. And he can't get Kell a big fight. And Joshua knows America is where the big money is and where he can become an international superstar. Haymon is a threat to Hearn.

[playmaker]

Eddie Hearn of Matchroom Boxing has a working relationship with Al Haymon, the powerful adviser with numerous major boxers in his stable, and the person behind Premier Boxing Champions.
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Says the man who'se never put on a 50-50 fight. Kell Brook has avoided any one with a pulse all his career (apart from the short porter whom he held all night long and was still very very close) which is 12 long years.

[nycsmooth]

I don't know how accurate the statement I'd the "fighters are being over paid". ..Any 1 have knowledge what these guys make...Even 2 shot guys as Verto/Ortiz deserve no more than 50k & Washington/Chambers should have paid back the fans...

[PoserExposer]

It's no secret that Waddell & Reed is losing millions in their PBC investment. Eddie Hearn is spot on, while PBC fighters may make decent coin (as they should), the ship will eventually sink taking in so much water.

[Nightfall]

with the long term health and brain damage possibilities. no fighter is over paid. GTFO Hearn

[playmaker]

Yeah... No, I don't think so. I watched the Fox card yesterday as fighters slugged it out in the 1st round and people kept saying "that's what the fans want". But how many people go to work with the risk of getting CTE or some sort of brain damage? I know I don't. I edit video all day. I think it's BS for a promoter to sit in his high chair and say fighters are getting paid too much! How do you think Freddie Roach and Ali got Parkinson's? Think Roach think he got paid too much as a fighter?

I agree. He'd rather pay himself rather than the fighters. A hypocrite and a bigot

[El-blanco]

Frampton isn't with Hearn. If it wasn't for Al the Frampton-Quigg fight wouldn't have happened. Hearn had been trying to make that fight for a while. Hearn even admitted the fight got made because of Haymon.

Haymon is a threat to all promoters because he's a former promoter and knows the revenue streams. When Floyd signed with Al he showed Floyd how the promoters were working. That's why Floyd called HBO's contract "slave wages". Everybody said Floyd was crazy but in the end he was right.

I don't know where everyone gets the idea that Haymon doesn't have to worry about making money out recouping there investment. That is not how business works. Most of those claims are based in racism. If Arum or some white guy got a firm to invest in boxing they'd be lauded as great businessmen. Look at how many casinos the brothers that own UFC have bankrupted. Look at their past shady business dealings. Trump had bankrupted dozens of businesses and he's lauded as a great businessmen. Haymon's track record in business is spectacular. But a black man does something white people do everyday (get investment money to start a business) and he's supposedly doing something nefarious.

If this venture fails, it fails. It won't be there first big idea that fails. But I have a good feeling that PBC will be around as long as Matchroom and become bigger in the UK. Eddie is threatened because of Al's deals with boxnation and other competitors. And he can't get Kell a big fight. And Joshua knows America is where the big money is and where he can become an international superstar. Haymon is a threat to Hearn.

He was right about slave wages? So, the solution is to overpay guys and lose money in every event? Listen, just because one fighter was undervalued doesn't mean the valuation for others was wrong or that they're slave wages. Clearly haymon is the one who has the valuations wrong which is why you see these events tanking.

[zerosixthree]

Frampton is with cyclone promotions not Eddie Hearn....

Of course he is. I'm getting him confused with Quigg, aren't I? I don't know why I get them mixed up. They're nothing alike. I blame Eastcoast.

Nevertheless, Quigg.. Quigg avoided Rigondeaux to the point at which Gary Hyde tried to beg the WBA to force the fight. Eddie Hearn wasn't bothered about challenging his fighter then. Again, my point is that Hearn uses the same risk/reward calculations as everyone else.

Also, Haymon fighters get paid.

[-DSG-]

What ever PBC has been much better than SHO or HBO.