Do you still rank Bradley as the #2 ww?

[DreamerUSA]

He won none of those fights against Pacquiao and Chaves, great argument.

Ruslan wasn't a ranked WW either.

1. He asked who he fought, not who he beat.

2. He was 1-1-1 in those three fights.

3. Never claimed that Ruslan was ranked.

4. Don't quote me out of context.

[Larry the boss]

Tim had 7 fights at WW prior to Saturday. Manny x 2, and Chavez. 3 top 10 WW's in 7 fights. Who else outside of him, has done that? In fact. Since Bradley came to WW, his and Manny's resume are quite similar outside of Manny fighting Floyd. I'm curious who you would rank higher, based on resume.

Also you can't just discount the Ruslan and Marquez wins. Considering those were Tim's 2nd and 3rd fights at welterweight.

and he didnt win any of those fights

[Larry the boss]

1. He asked who he fought, not who he beat.

2. He was 1-1-1 in those three fights.

3. Never claimed that Ruslan was ranked.

4. Don't quote me out of context.

So how does that make his the #2 ww?

[Robbie Barrett]

1. He asked who he fought, not who he beat.

2. He was 1-1-1 in those three fights.

3. Never claimed that Ruslan was ranked.

4. Don't quote me out of context.

You're wanting to count the first Bradley-Pac fight as a win for Bradley?

The only ranked WW Bradley has ever beaten is JMM. He really hasn't done much at WW if you really look at it.

[Larry the boss]

You're wanting to count the first Bradley-Pac fight as a win for Bradley?

The only ranked WW Bradley has ever beaten is JMM. He really hasn't done much at WW if you really look at it.

Yea Bradley's ww run has been full of wins over 140 pounders

[SUBZER0ED]

Tim just lost to the current #1 WW in the world. His ranking shouldn't take much of a dip against up and comers who haven't proven themselves yet. I'm curious to see if he will fight Thurman, Porter, Brook or even Garcia. Oddly, Ring mag has him listed @ #4, behind Khan, & Brook is ranked #1!
http://******.craveonline.com/ratings/welterweight (ringtv) Should Manny fight Brook next, if he doesn't retire?

[joseph5620]

No and he should not have been ranked #2 in the 1st place imo..he doesnt even fight true ww's..look at the ww rankings and tell me who he has fought on there

This right here which should end the discussion.

[DreamerUSA]

So how does that make his the #2 ww?

Because no one not named Manny or Floyd has fought the level of competition he has at ww, period. Certainly not Brook or Thurman. If he should of or could of fought better opposition is irrelevant. When compared side by side, again, no one not named Manny or Floyd, has fought the level of opposition he has. Its not even close in fact. That is a testament to how these guys are all pretty much avoiding taking tough fights. Again I ask, who would you of ranked above him, based on resume?

[The Big Dunn]

Because no one not named Manny or Floyd has fought the level of competition he has at ww, period. Certainly not Brook or Thurman. If he should of or could of fought better opposition is irrelevant. When compared side by side, again, no one not named Manny or Floyd, has fought the level of opposition he has. Its not even close in fact. That is a testament to how these guys are all pretty much avoiding taking tough fights. Again I ask, who would you of ranked above him, based on resume?

Dreamer, how are you counting losses in this climate?

Tim lost to manny. Shouldn't he drop? Him staying at #2 isn't fair because Thurman and Brook, in this climate, can't get a fight with #1.

Same with Manny-he lost to JMM and Floyd. yes they are better than all other WW's but is it fair for guys that can't fight Floyd/Tim/Manny to stay behind him in this climate?

Its as if no one other than Manny, tim or JMM can be ranked #1 or #2.

[DreamerUSA]

You're wanting to count the first Bradley-Pac fight as a win for Bradley?

The only ranked WW Bradley has ever beaten is JMM. He really hasn't done much at WW if you really look at it.

My feelings on the decision don't matter. Fact remains that he was 1-1-1 in those three fights. Add the Marquez win and who exactly is ahead of him as far as resume goes at ww? A couple guys could be if the would fight each other, but until that happens they are sucking hind tit.

Like I said to Larry. The fact he was still the #2 ww is a testament to how ***** made the division has been for several years now.