Do you still rank Bradley as the #2 ww?

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  • HeroBando
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    #41
    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
    You're wanting to count the first Bradley-Pac fight as a win for Bradley?

    The only ranked WW Bradley has ever beaten is JMM. He really hasn't done much at WW if you really look at it.
    Similar to you counting Chaves as a draw, when everyone had Bradley winning comfortably

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    • jvsnypes
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      #42
      Yes, he is #2. The best fighters in this era are Mayweather, Pacquiao, Cotto, Marquez, and Timothy Bradley. His resume speaks for itself. No welterweight could have beaten the Manny Pacquiao that showed up Saturday night. Tim beats everyone in the top 10 at 147. He has too much big fight experience and too many championship intangibles for the rest.

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        #43
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        Dreamer, how are you counting losses in this climate?

        Tim lost to manny. Shouldn't he drop? Him staying at #2 isn't fair because Thurman and Brook, in this climate, can't get a fight with #1.

        Same with Manny-he lost to JMM and Floyd. yes they are better than all other WW's but is it fair for guys that can't fight Floyd/Tim/Manny to stay behind him in this climate?

        Its as if no one other than Manny, tim or JMM can be ranked #1 or #2.
        Because I simply don't **** on guys for taking an L here or there when they are taking tough fights. In all honesty I believe Thurman and Brook are the two best welterweights, but that is based on what I see in the ring not on what they have actually accomplished. Brook's best win is Porter and Thurman's is Chavez. Tim has at least two wins that are better than those and arguably a couple of other wins that would at least be on par with those wins. Its not even ****ing close imo.

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        • RetroSpeed05
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          #44
          Now that Floyd and Pac gone, WW is up for grabs they have to fight each other to see a new king get crowned.

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          • GMAN SUPREME
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            #45
            no but he's still top 3. my welterweight rankings. 1.Pacquiao 2.brook 3.bradley 4.porter thurman still hasn't fought anybody with a pulse and garcia is fighting nothing but corpses like robert guerrero and paulie LOL what a joke.

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            • Larry the boss
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              #46
              Originally posted by jvsnypes
              Yes, he is #2. The best fighters in this era are Mayweather, Pacquiao, Cotto, Marquez, and Timothy Bradley. His resume speaks for itself. No welterweight could have beaten the Manny Pacquiao that showed up Saturday night. Tim beats everyone in the top 10 at 147. He has too much big fight experience and too many championship intangibles for the rest.
              Bradley does not belong on that list at all..lol

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                #47
                Originally posted by larrys.o.g
                Bradley does not belong on that list at all..lol
                He does, because besides Marquez, Bradley the next in line to have the closest battle with Pacquiao in that second fight.

                All the other welterweights and jnr welterweights were completely dominated.

                Well. Not if the list is about best of an era, but he's in that mix with those names, since he beat JMM and actually gave Pacquiao a fight.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by SplitSecond
                  He does, because besides Marquez, Bradley the next in line to have the closest battle with Pacquiao in that second fight.

                  All the other welterweights and jnr welterweights were completely dominated.
                  That's like saying Maidana should be on the list because he did the best against Mayweather.

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                  • SplitSecond
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                    That's like saying Maidana should be on the list because he did the best against Mayweather.
                    Maidana has never beaten anyone worth sht though. Bradley ruled at 140 and beat Roidquez. Roidquez is one in the mix.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by DreamerUSA
                      Because I simply don't **** on guys for taking an L here or there when they are taking tough fights. In all honesty I believe Thurman and Brook are the two best welterweights, but that is based on what I see in the ring not on what they have actually accomplished. Brook's best win is Porter and Thurman's is Chavez. Tim has at least two wins that are better than those and arguably a couple of other wins that would at least be on par with those wins. Its not even ****ing close imo.
                      I'm not suggesting we shit on them for losing. I am just saying losing has to matter. In this climate-only Tim and JMM will get a shot at Manny. The loser shouldn't get to stay at 2 because of the resume after a loss. How does Thurman or Brook ever get to #1 if #1 never fights them and keeps beating everyone he does fight, except the champ?

                      Bradley's resume is better but he is miles behind Manny. Can we say the same for Brook and Thurman if they never get to fight JMM, Manny or Tim?

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