Do you still rank Bradley as the #2 ww?

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  • AJ24
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    #61
    After Pac, probably Thurman or Brook at #2 ww

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      #62
      Originally posted by HeroBando
      Take Thurman, Brook, Khan and Garcia. What are their 3 best welter wins, combined?

      1. Porter
      2. Guerrero vs Thurman, weak welter, borderline top 10
      3. ?? Jojo Dan?

      Even Bradley's welter output is much better
      You're right, but Bradley is 0-3 against Manny, has a draw against Chaves (who Thurman stopped), and all his welter weight wins come against non-established welterweights like Marquez, Rios, Ruslan, and Vargas. What I'm saying is that too many fights that can't be made prevent us from clearly stating who the top 2 guys at welterweight really are.

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      • duran888
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        #63
        I previously thought Bradley would just edge brook in a split decision type of fight but i now think Brook beats him, and beats everybody par pacquiao. If Manny retires i think Brook is the best 147er out there.

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        • AJ24
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          #64
          When Crawford officially moves up to 147 he's got to be up there too. Mad Skills!!

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          • HeroBando
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            #65
            Originally posted by _original_
            You're right, but Bradley is 0-3 against Manny, has a draw against Chaves (who Thurman stopped), and all his welter weight wins come against non-established welterweights like Marquez, Rios, Ruslan, and Vargas. What I'm saying is that too many fights that can't be made prevent us from clearly stating who the top 2 guys at welterweight really are.
            Tim drew with Chaves only on paper, everyone had him winning clear cut. Just like Pac vs Bradley 1. Marquez of course was coming off the greatest welter win in a while. Vargas didn't have a welter resume, but turns out he's also better than anyone the other guys have beaten, excluding Porter say.

            When you put it all together (add Prov, Chaves, Rios, Abregu), his welter resume is much stronger and deeper than any of those guys

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              #66
              Originally posted by HeroBando
              Tim drew with Chaves only on paper, everyone had him winning clear cut. Just like Pac vs Bradley 1. Marquez of course was coming off the greatest welter win in a while. Vargas didn't have a welter resume, but turns out he's also better than anyone the other guys have beaten, excluding Porter say.

              When you put it all together (add Prov, Chaves, Rios, Abregu), his welter resume is much stronger and deeper than any of those guys
              No argument there, I actually agree with what you're saying. My point is that we need H2H match ups to get a clear top 1 at WW. And most of the fights can't be made because of politics. Bradley has a better resume at WW than those guy but they don't have a chance to fight him and Pac to see where they stand which is unfortunate.

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              • hugh grant
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                #67
                Originally posted by duran888
                I previously thought Bradley would just edge brook in a split decision type of fight but i now think Brook beats him, and beats everybody par pacquiao. If Manny retires i think Brook is the best 147er out there.
                Brook might beat the worn bradlley now. Bradley sacrificed a lot to get his reputztion and to get where he is now
                Last edited by hugh grant; 04-11-2016, 07:07 PM.

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