Pacman: 5 lineal champion and 8 division champion.

[hugh grant]

All that, and still not #1 in his era. Says a lot really.

PAC is no1 of this era. Floyd's unbeaten record gives some people the perception he is, it all rests on the unbeaten record which is smoke and mirrors.
What they actually achieved PAC is the greatest. Don't go on about nobody has beat more former champions and champions than floyd! That's called cherry picking guys like Guerrero, Ortiz and berto to pad it out, but Floyd was always aware of what he was up to in trying to achieve these politian type stats that nobody cares about. He was calculated in that way. How many chsmps would pac have beat if he was dining on these kind of guys? Instead pac beats bradley type guys 3 times which trumps those wins of floyd!
Floyd didn't care if he fought a weak champion. As long as it added to the statistic that he could gloat about. Its cherry picking, it was never about beating the most dangerous opponent and overcoming adversity and taking risks

[pasawayako]

I think floyd could be the 2nd best
5 division champion
3 lineal champion
2nd best Fighter of the decade

[IronDanHamza]

There's a lot of less desrved lineal champ. Eg Floyd at SWW, back to back MW champs, Stevenson etc. When it's 1 vs 2 in the division, the winner is lineal

Ok? And?

What's that got to do with this?

This discussion isn't about "who's the worst Lineal Champion"

I'm merely pointing out the one being brought to the attention in this thread. I know it's a gag reflex for you to bring up other fighters every time your favourite guys are critisized but settle down its ok.

[b00g13man]

PAC is no1 of this era. Floyd's unbeaten record gives some people the perception he is, it all rests on the unbeaten record which is smoke and mirrors.
What they actually actually achieved PAC is the greatest.

I think floyd could be the 2nd best
5 division champion
3 lineal champion
2nd best Fighter of the decade

So cute, but no.

[BM dnobagaV]

Ok? And?

What's that got to do with this?

This discussion isn't about "who's the worst Lineal Champion"

I'm merely pointing out the one being brought to the attention in this thread. I know it's a gag reflex for you to bring up other fighters every time your favourite guys are critisized but settle down its ok.

Doesn't change anything.
Fight was for the lineal, he won, he got it. So be it. BY far the best WW on the planet.

Did you want it to stay vacant forever after Floyd retired?

[IronDanHamza]

Doesn't change anything.
Fight was for the lineal, he won, he got it. So be it. BY far the best WW on the planet.

Did you want it to stay vacant forever after Floyd retired?

Another response that has nothing to do with that I said.

Merely stating #1 if it was for the Lineal it's a weak lineage and #2 I don't understand how they're the consensus #1 and #2 in a division that's currently wide open.

[Lester Tutor]

David Diaz at 130? Lol. Please..

Interesting posts about last night's fight as if this Pac's performance gives closure that his legacy is better than Floyd. Yeah ok...

[pasawayako]

Doesn't change anything.
Fight was for the lineal, he won, he got it. So be it. BY far the best WW on the planet.

Did you want it to stay vacant forever after Floyd retired?

lol that's what flom0s want. even the lb4lb no. 1 should be vacant.

[Spoon23]

I think floyd could be the 2nd best
5 division champion
3 lineal champion
2nd best Fighter of the decade

Yeah I agree.

Fl0mos has something to dislike about Pac again hahaha

[Robbie Barrett]

Pac fans inventing lineal titles for him now?

They weren't clear #1 & #2 which is why the ring title wasn't on the line.