Should boxers boycott the IBF?

[Dr Rumack]

40% of the WBA's top 5 ranked fighters aren't even in the top 10 of ANY of the other organisations - http://bbboc.co.uk/hall-of-shame

Between that and their regular/super title bullshit the WBA are by far the worst.

[Eff Pandas]

40% of the WBA's top 5 ranked fighters aren't even in the top 10 of ANY of the other organisations - http://bbboc.co.uk/hall-of-shame

Between that and their regular/super title bullshit the WBA are by far the worst.

This thread is about the IBF.

I would hope most boxing fans agree ALL THE ALPHABET GROUPS are corrupt (or incompetent) to one degree or another. To me arguing these alphabet groups against each other is like arguing the best serial killer or the worst gang **** when all the things up for discussion are a problem.

Boxing would be better off without all of them as they've greatly damaged the sport with the destruction of what it means to be a champion & their symbiotic relationship with each other is a support system of sorts for keeping them all relevant. They've even had summits among themselves (although I think the WBO was absent).

[Eff Pandas]

The IBF rules are quite clear and transparent in comparison. Their rankings might be awful at times but that's just because the promoters know they can manipulate things better with the other alphabet groups so they prefer to go there instead.

Feel free to explain the below ranking among the guys willing to fight for the IBF title & not include the words corruption or incompetence.

168lbs
1. Jose Uzcategui
2. NOT RATED
3. Rogelio Medina
4. Patrick Nielsen
5. Andre Dirrell
6. Callum Smith
7. Jesse Hart
8. Hadillah Mohoumadi
9. Zac Dunn
10. J’Leon Love
11. George Groves
12. Yuzo Kiyota
13. Tyron Zeuge
14. Lucian Bute
15. Julius Jackson

Okay Jose Uzcategui won his spot so fair enough there, but idek how Porky Medina got his spot at all.

Porky's not even fought for a bs minor IBF belt. He's got no respectable wins since beating J'Leon Love in 2014 & most would say thats not THAT respectable I think we would agree. And since Love he has wins over Ernesto Aboyte (0-21-2) in Jan 2015, Luis Acevedo (24-15-5, who hadn't won a fight since 2012 when he beat Levi Perez who was 0-16-1) 3 days later & Samuel Miller (29-10, who had lost 6 of his last 10 fights with his 4 W's coming over a debuting, 0-1, 0-10 & 1-6 fighters lol) in May 2015 & then almost a year of inactivity since. And now he's about to get a title fight since Uzcategui is injured.

[Dr Rumack]

This thread is about the IBF.

I would hope most boxing fans agree ALL THE ALPHABET GROUPS are corrupt (or incompetent) to one degree or another. To me arguing these alphabet groups against each other is like arguing the best serial killer or the worst gang **** when all the things up for discussion are a problem.

Yeah and I'm pointing out the IBF's rankings are not the worst, it's the WBA by a big distance.

The alphabet orgs are a problem. But half the reason they exist is the rampant corruption that existed when there was only one clear championship to fight for. They're a symptom of a deeper lack of control and authority in the sport.

[ShoulderRoll]

Feel free to explain the below ranking among the guys willing to fight for the IBF title & not include the words corruption or incompetence.

Those are the guys willing to fight for the IBF title and willing to move up the rankings based on the IBF requirements.

You won't see Lucian Bute suddenly shoot to the top 5 just because of who promotes him.

[-PBP-]

The IBF has the power to force Brook vs Spence. Now enforcing their rules will pay off.

[Eff Pandas]

The alphabet orgs are a problem. But half the reason they exist is the rampant corruption that existed when there was only one clear championship to fight for. They're a symptom of a deeper lack of control and authority in the sport.

100% agree with you there. Its the wild wild west of sports.

[Eff Pandas]

Those are the guys willing to fight for the IBF title and willing to move up the rankings based on the IBF requirements.

You won't see Lucian Bute suddenly shoot to the top 5 just because of who promotes him.

Yea Bute's promoter is the problem not these bs rankings lol.

I'd avoid the question too if I was arguing that the IBF isn't corrupt or incompetent too I guess so fair play with the cryptic non-answer.

[ShoulderRoll]

Yea Bute's promoter is the problem not these bs rankings lol.

I'd avoid the question too if I was arguing that the IBF isn't corrupt or incompetent too I guess so fair play with the cryptic non-answer.

Did you see that Berchelt plans to sue the WBO because he was passed over for his mandatory shot so that Lomachenko can get it instead?

That doesn't happen with the IBF which is why Bob Arum prefers to channel his fighters away from them and towards other groups like the WBO instead. This is precisely why the IBF ratings are so barren of talent....he isn't the only promoter who operates this way.

In the corrupt world of boxing a straight shooter like the IBF actually gets in the way and becomes a hindrance.

[paulf]

Nope, it's not up to them. There's no international boxers union or anything, so fighters that choose not pay their fees and get rankings would be putting themselves and their careers at a disadvantage against fighters who choose not to boycott.