The problem with a lot of PBC fighters

[Nubia]

Where did I say Haymon was going broke, Kunta?

Just know that it'll never happen as PBC is the future of the sport. Tough luck Jefferey. The Black Man running your favorite sport, that must sting real bad.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Because the UFC strapped the marketing machine on McGregor, spent the vast majority of mcGegor's UFC run trying to piggyback off of Mayweather's starpower, and the UFC is already a PPV-driven enterprise (the PPV assumptions are entirely without basis, as UFC doesn't even release their numbers).

Haymon's entire effort, the crux of which anyway, is to do away with boxing being driven almost exclusively by the PPV model, hence Haymon not really being all that focused on creating a PPV star at the moment.

Haymon is trying to shoot the moon with his effort; if the plan works, his first pay deal is likely going to be for at least $100m-$150m per year, for 50 fight cards (likely 10 of which set for Saturday primetime on terrestrial TV). With W&R already accepting the possibility of losing their 1%, Haymon heads back to Showtime with a roster of fighters who'd just picked up a ton more exposure (with W&R likely cut in on his adviser fees for the foreseeable future).

To argue that no one is willing to pay for boxing is laughable, especially not even knowing the type of money being put up for WSOF and Bellator(an organization owned by SpikeTV parent Viacom).

Who is paying for boxing then??? Name one network that is paying decent money and securing major fights???


Viacom liked bellator a ratings so much, they ****ing bought it, and are spending money since they sign a lot of big free agent names

NBC wanted to get into mma and is spending lots of money funding WSOF

UFC getting over 100 million a year in TV deals..


Now name the network investing in major boxing????

[Scipio2009]

That's not shortsighted...


Make competitve matchups everytime, wtf... Every mma organizations do it... They actually have rankings that matter and guys move up and down the ladder and are always matched competitively. In boxing we got fres quendo a ****ing mandatory challenger FFS, look who stevenson has fought recently, Santa cruz's last fight... Those fights are jokes..
Are you actually ok with all the mismatches in boxing, and how the timing works in boxing,...
That's why boxing is dead, and has lost all casuals and mainstream attention...

Since the begining of PPv, boxing has always been able to deliver stars that could get 1 million PPv buys... Today, the biggest star in his prime can't even crack a million in his biggest fight possible..
It's really a bad sign when canelo-cotto can't break a million...


PBC would be better served with competitive fights, rather than mismatches

I'm barely a casual fan of MMA at this point; prior to McGregor-Diaz, when was the last time that the combat sports fan was made electric by a UFC night of fights? Rousey-Holm, from November 2015, from the looks of things. And before that? who knows when (and don't make yourself look ****** with some "ratings in the UFC matter" nonsense; Dana White has shown that he's plenty ready to completely ignore any ratings in the name of making marketable fights, on countless occasions). The hype behind this one event has done an amazing job at getting MMA fans to ignore the prior 10 PPVs that didn't deliver, lol.

"Since the begining of PPv, boxing has always been able to deliver stars that could get 1 million PPv buys..." lol

Please name all of these stars; as a boxing fan who's been in love with the sport for some time now, I can count the 1m PPV buy club on one hand.

try again

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I'm barely a casual fan of MMA at this point; prior to McGregor-Diaz, when was the last time that the combat sports fan was made electric by a UFC night of fights? Rousey-Holm, from November 2015, from the looks of things. And before that? who knows when (and don't make yourself look ****** with some "ratings in the UFC matter" nonsense; Dana White has shown that he's plenty ready to completely ignore any ratings in the name of making marketable fights, on countless occasions). The hype behind this one event has done an amazing job at getting MMA fans to ignore the prior 10 PPVs that didn't deliver, lol.

"Since the begining of PPv, boxing has always been able to deliver stars that could get 1 million PPv buys..." lol

Please name all of these stars; as a boxing fan who's been in love with the sport for some time now, I can count the 1m PPV buy club on one hand.

try again

There has been some great fights in mma,,,

I would say watch all the ppv's from 2011.. That was the best fights in one year in the history of UFC...

But every year ufc provides some great great fights.. Aldo-Edgar ws top notch, any jon jones fight,,, Cormier vs rumble was great..

I have been watching since ufc 1, and seen it evolve, and 2011 has the best run of fights ever,, every PPv lived up to the hype or surpassed it


Boxing is still my favorite, but the matchmaking is pathetic compared to mma.. All I want is boxing to have the tough schedule like mma, and boxing would really get back a lot of lost popularity

[Scipio2009]

Who is paying for boxing then??? Name one network that is paying decent money and securing major fights???


Viacom liked bellator a ratings so much, they ****ing bought it, and are spending money since they sign a lot of big free agent names

NBC wanted to get into mma and is spending lots of money funding WSOF

UFC getting over 100 million a year in TV deals..


Now name the network investing in major boxing????

Showtime/CBS has been expanding their boxing budget for years at this point; ignore that if you want. With Les Moonves (CBS Chairman/CEO/President) throwing his support behind boxing (in addition to how fight content could be parlayed across Showtime/CBS) that budget is likely to continue to go up.

Beyond that, how much money is NBCUniversal actually spending on putting WSOF solely on NBCSN? Viacom may have bought Bellator to add content to SpikeTV, but how much did they actually pay to buy the entire property.

The UFC got $100m per year from Fox, in one TV deal, not deals (hilarious that you've tried to create the impression that WSOF or Bellator ended up drawing money like the UFC's deal). lol

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Showtime/CBS has been expanding their boxing budget for years at this point; ignore that if you want. With Les Moonves (CBS Chairman/CEO/President) throwing his support behind boxing (in addition to how fight content could be parlayed across Showtime/CBS) that budget is likely to continue to go up.

Beyond that, how much money is NBCUniversal actually spending on putting WSOF solely on NBCSN? Viacom may have bought Bellator to add content to SpikeTV, but how much did they actually pay to buy the entire property.

The UFC got $100m per year from Fox, in one TV deal, not deals (hilarious that you've tried to create the impression that WSOF or Bellator ended up drawing money like the UFC's deal). lol

Like I said,,, Name one network paying for boxing???..

Wsof and bellator both getting paid or bought out by networks.

Boxing has to pay millions of dollars to secure those Timeslots..

You can hate all you want on mma, but the facts are, they please fans, networks, advertisers, etc... Hence why networks spend money on mma but not boxing...

And ufc has a lot more TV deals than just fox... The have multiple contracts globally



Hilarious how you keep defending a defeated position... People lie, numbers don't...

Mma getting paid by networks, boxing gotta pay the networks..

Mma that pimp getting money from that TV hoe, whose getting money from that trick John called boxing



If boxing is such a good product, name the networks paying for it??

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Showtime/CBS has been expanding their boxing budget for years at this point; ignore that if you want. With Les Moonves (CBS Chairman/CEO/President) throwing his support behind boxing (in addition to how fight content could be parlayed across Showtime/CBS) that budget is likely to continue to go up.

Beyond that, how much money is NBCUniversal actually spending on putting WSOF solely on NBCSN? Viacom may have bought Bellator to add content to SpikeTV, but how much did they actually pay to buy the entire property.

The UFC got $100m per year from Fox, in one TV deal, not deals (hilarious that you've tried to create the impression that WSOF or Bellator ended up drawing money like the UFC's deal). lol

And showtime expanded their budget to get floyd,,, floyd gone, SHObox is crap, and showtime championship boxing is showing a lot less fights then they were a decade ago..

How much CBS paying for boxing???

[Ham Porter]

Just know that it'll never happen as PBC is the future of the sport. Tough luck Jefferey. The Black Man running your favorite sport, that must sting real bad.

Future of the sport, yet lost hundreds of millions of dollars in under a year, has an increasingly stagnant schedule, consistently does awful ratings and is now having Showtime bail them out on fights.

Da future yall.

[PACnPBFsuck]

It's good to see NSB back to normal

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

I have a feeling that once Schaefer steps in as the lead matchmaker things will get much better. He was responsible for all of the great matches on the Golden Boy roster including Matthysse-Garcia.

No he wasnt, it was erik gomez.