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  • #81
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
    HBO and PBC cards are relatively equal in pay structure. The main attraction gets $1 mil or more and the opponent gets about a 10th of that unless its like Ghost/Danny type fight.

    If both networks are overpaying for mismatches, why is it only a problem when PBC does it?
    Originally posted by Fetta View Post
    Because they are accountants and not boxing fans. Bottom line in a business they are not connected to is what matters to them
    PBC does it all the time, HBO does it when they have too. Rios only makes like 500K if RIOS was on PBC he would be getting 1.2 million each time out.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Fetta View Post
      Because they are accountants and not boxing fans. Bottom line in a business they are not connected to is what matters to them
      I don't get it. LSC/Kiko was the same split as Crawford/Lundy or just about. Both major en******, HBO and PBC, are making matches where the main attraction gets a roughly 90/10 split.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by ea22 View Post
        So a Berto and an Algieri? Even then Diaz has been a perennial contender and McGregor was moving up.
        OK. Let's say Berto/Algeiri (even though it's probably more like a Carlos Molina/K9/Ishe). Boxing fans criticized those fights and are in here praising this fight. Exactly proving my point.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
          HBO and PBC cards are relatively equal in pay structure. The main attraction gets $1 mil or more and the opponent gets about a 10th of that unless its like Ghost/Danny type fight.

          If both networks are overpaying for mismatches, why is it only a problem when PBC does it?
          You may be right, but this is clearly a Haymon thing. Berto was on HBO and gets $1 million per fight because of Haymon. HBO ended their relationship with him and learned a lesson that is now impossible to reverse.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by !WAR KOVALEV! View Post
            PBC does it all the time, HBO does it when they have too. Rios only makes like 500K if RIOS was on PBC he would be getting 1.2 million each time out.
            That's not accurate. Rios has made 500k a few years ago. Rios also isn't a main attraction. If you look at the splits Kov, Crawford, Danny, LSC have all got in their mismatches all are getting somewhere between 80/20 -90/10. I expect same for GGG and Broner.

            It of course would be better if we got more fights where the opponents were closer in level so the pay would be maybe $750k/550k split.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by !WAR KOVALEV! View Post
              PBC does it all the time, HBO does it when they have too. Rios only makes like 500K if RIOS was on PBC he would be getting 1.2 million each time out.
              Rios made close to a million to fight Bradley who made like 1.5 in an empty arena. Crawford just made over a million to fight lundy. Good for all of them cause i didnt see a dime of it so dont care.

              I got sport and they got paid.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by JoeMan View Post
                You may be right, but this is clearly a Haymon thing. Berto was on HBO and gets $1 million per fight because of Haymon. HBO ended their relationship with him and learned a lesson that is now impossible to reverse.
                You are not making sense. If HBO wanted to reverse it they could very easily. But HBO realizes that making fights like this gets their stars an easy win and big payments, no different than Haymon.

                Your real issue seems to be the purses Haymon fighters get. Why? If both en****** are doing this you should have an equal problem with both.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Fetta View Post
                  Rios made close to a million to fight Bradley who made like 1.5 in an empty arena. Crawford just made over a million to fight lundy. Good for all of them cause i didnt see a dime of it so dont care.

                  I got sport and they got paid.
                  Exactly. If they have the power to negotiate that fee, so be it. That said, it can't only be a problem when PBC gets LSC $1 mil to fight Kiko buts its ok that HBO/TR gets Crawford $1 mil to fight Lundy.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by -PBP- View Post
                    McGregor getting credit but Khan's being criticized for doing the same damn thing against a higher quality opponent? It's a double standard.
                    McGregor proved he was the best at his weight-class. Khan took the safe route and waited around until he got a big fight. Broner proved he was the best at 135 and jumped to 147 and beat Paulie and lost to Maidana and he gets ridiculed for that loss.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by JoeMan View Post
                      You may be right, but this is clearly a Haymon thing. Berto was on HBO and gets $1 million per fight because of Haymon. HBO ended their relationship with him and learned a lesson that is now impossible to reverse.
                      Berto was also a young, undefeated WW Champion with a fan-friendly offensive style who threw every dayum punch with bad intentions. You know, everything I hear fans supposedly want in a young fighter. And he also looked like the possible future of the division.

                      But let's just ignore all that.

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