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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #21
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
    McGregor definitely took more punches than he's used to & I'm sure that played into the outcome, but he was for sure gassed too. He was visibly breathing heavy in the 1st round. In the 2nd round it only got worse. I won't say that he lost cuz he gassed, but I also don't think he lost cuz he was getting hit. I think those two facts played into each other & helped led to his L. He also said in the post-fight presser that he panicked when Diaz was taking his shots & not falling down like previous opponents which I'm sure didn't help his gas tank at all either.

    All in all I think Conor beat Conor more than Diaz did. He took a fight on late notice at a weight 25lbs higher than where he's champion. He seemed to be looking for a highlight KO instead of a W. He didn't seem to have much of a fight plan outside of this highlight KO. He seems to have learned little from his previous submission L's over 5yrs ago with his lack of much defense when he was on the ground last night. He seemed like a guy who'd already won & didn't expect any adversity on the night. I'd like to see a McGregor vs Diaz II rematch at 155. I suspect it turns out differently.
    He was already preparing for a fight, he just didn't have to drain because Diaz whom usually fights at 155 didn't have the time to prepare or make weight on 10 days notice. Diaz was at a bigger disadvantage, but still ***** slapped McGregor and choked him out.

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    • Redd Foxx
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      #22
      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
      All in all I think Conor beat Conor more than Diaz did. He took a fight on late notice at a weight 25lbs higher than where he's champion. He seemed to be looking for a highlight KO instead of a W. He didn't seem to have much of a fight plan outside of this highlight KO. He seems to have learned little from his previous submission L's over 5yrs ago with his lack of much defense when he was on the ground last night. He seemed like a guy who'd already won & didn't expect any adversity on the night. I'd like to see a McGregor vs Diaz II rematch at 155. I suspect it turns out differently.
      Wait, what?? Connor had a full camp and was prepared for a guy who has MUCH better stand-up and wrestling than Nate. NATE was the one who took the fight with no notice and it's amazing that he was able to see the 2nd round. Saying that Connor beat himself is foolish when you consider that Nate was the one with all the disadvantages. Connor lost to a guy who was historically awful at 170, had no prep for the fight, and was 2-3 in the last 5 years. No more bullshyt excuses for Connor. -EXPOSED-
      Last edited by Redd Foxx; 03-06-2016, 04:39 PM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by eco1
        these mma guys gas out after 5 minutes. bunch of ass grabbing f a g s if you ask me
        LMAO

        No one gassed last night...

        Stick to watching snoozefests that have become the norm in boxing...


        You have no idea about anything in mma, so you just sound ignorant when you talk about it

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        • Eff Pandas
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          #24
          Originally posted by Redd Foxx
          Wait, what?? Connor had a full camp and was prepared for a guy who has MUCH better stand-up and wrestling than Nate. NATE was the one who took the fight with no notice and it's amazing that he was able to see the 2nd round. Saying that Connor beat himself is foolish when you consider that Nate was the one with all the disadvantages. Connor lost to a guy who was historically awful at 170, had no prep for the fight, and was 2-3 in the last 5 years. No more bullshyt excuses for Connor. -EXPOSED-
          I think its a lil deeper than you're making it & for sure deeper than you are taking my comments. You seem to have taken one aspect of this fight & ran with it.

          And lol at bs excuses. Mistakes happen. To act like mistakes don't happen or that mistakes are just excuses of why you failed is a simplistic way of looking at things. The goal shouldn't be to never lose or always win, it should be to be as good as you can be in the present & I don't believe Conor did the things he needed to do to be the best he could be in the present. I suspect that'll get proven in a rematch. We will see sooner or later.

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            #25
            Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
            I'm brand new to watching mma. Does this sound right?

            He was going all out and slugging early on in hopes of taking the opponent out.

            Diaz is a tough Mexican and not small. He took those shots well (what some people call walking through) and broke McGregor down.

            As the fight progressed McGregor couldn't keep Diaz off him due to an empty gas tank from loading up on big shots.

            An early KO was out of the question. His best bet would have been to pace himself and go for the outbox strategy.
            Looking at brief clips of the fight, McGregor tried to set a "blitz him with activity" pace early, Diaz got through that well, starting to land heavy clean shots on McGregor by the time the 2nd round came around.

            With his gas tank emptying, and Diaz's range starting to set and **** him up on the feet, McGregor tried to change the parameters of the fight, likely too tired to remember Duaz's ground game being what it was.

            As a straight boxing comparison, though not all they way on point, you could compare McGregor-Diaz to Harrison-Nelson from last year.

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            • Eff Pandas
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              #26
              Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
              he just didn't have to drain because Diaz whom usually fights at 155 didn't have the time to prepare or make weight on 10 days notice.
              I think there is a double edged sword with weight. Obviously people accept that draining is bad, but I think fighting at a higher weight than you should be at is bad too. I think there is plenty of evidence to suggest this is true via boxing history.

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              • John Barron
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                #27
                these loudmouthed UFC hypejobs are bums with glass chins. there's no boxing or scientific explanation necessary.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                  LMAO

                  No one gassed last night...

                  Stick to watching snoozefests that have become the norm in boxing...


                  You have no idea about anything in mma, so you just sound ignorant when you talk about it
                  better to sound ignorant talking about this s h i t than when i have to use my brain while diseccting the critical theory, which i don't expect you would know s h i t about.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                    I'm brand new to watching mma. Does this sound right?

                    He was going all out and slugging early on in hopes of taking the opponent out.

                    Diaz is a tough Mexican and not small. He took those shots well (what some people call walking through) and broke McGregor down.

                    As the fight progressed McGregor couldn't keep Diaz off him due to an empty gas tank from loading up on big shots.

                    An early KO was out of the question. His best bet would have been to pace himself and go for the outbox strategy.
                    It would be simpler to say that McGregor bought his own hype!

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                      #30
                      i loved McGregor up until about 2 minutes into that fight...

                      i can't remember seeing a fighter lose from just being plain simple and ****** , well not since Nate Campbell vs Robbie Peden.

                      McGregor was that ****** that even when he realised his reach was way shorter than Diaz' that he was still loading up and bombing....and that after realising that he could catch Diaz when he was smart...but he must have just been that FULL of his own HYPE he must have forgotten that from the 1 out out 4 throws that he was hitting Diaz, that he was actually getting hit back because he was well within range.............all of the above after going up the equivalent of 4 boxing divisions..what an idiot!


                      So after seeing his outright ******ity i actually changed allegiance during the fight and thought it would be good for this guy to actually get a lesson here...and that's what happened.

                      Its so very obvious why GSP was an outright legend, be disciplined, fight smart, hit don't get hit, go for KO only if it is there, if not, win on points by being the better more effective fighter...

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