Floyd Mayweather says B-Side Golovkin should face Canelo at 155

[robertzimmerman]

Encourage the behavior that's been going on for at least 30 years already? Happy hour specials musta got you going.

Really?

I'm not talking about your average CW.

Give me a list of fighters who had to drop weight to fight for lineal belts, even though they were current champs and established fighters in their divisions at the time.

It stinks.

[IMDAZED]

Really?

I'm not talking about your average CW.

Give me a list of fighters who had to drop weight to fight for lineal belts, even though they were current champs and established fighters in their divisions at the time.

It stinks.

Again, you're bringing up belts like that's what GGG is after here. I don't think so. I'm pretty sure he'd be disappointed if Canelo vacated. He's chasing big money and elite status, that much is clear.

[bug0092]

Yeah but who cares about the belt? You think if Canelo dropped it tomorrow, GGG would be satisfied with that result? Those guys made concessions not because they wanted a belt but because they wanted the big money and elite status. Mayweather is saying GGG will have to make sacrifices if he wants that as well.

They look like concessions to you because you're not seeing the big picture. They lost nothing by letting Cotto and Canelo keep the belt this long. Nothing. In the meantime, they won the IBF belt and now they're going to take care of the mandatory so they can keep it. They just kicked the WBC can down the road a bit and all that's happening is the pressure's building for Canelo to take the fight. I believe GGG wants to unify. He and his team have been consistent about it for the past couple of years. Maybe he's not quite as desperate for the payday as you think?

[robertzimmerman]

Yeah but who cares about the belt? You think if Canelo dropped it tomorrow, GGG would be satisfied with that result? Those guys made concessions not because they wanted a belt but because they wanted the big money and elite status. Mayweather is saying GGG will have to make sacrifices if he wants that as well.

You can't justify it just by saying other fighters made concessions.

If Canelo dropped the belt he should be absolutely crucified.

[IMDAZED]

They look like concessions to you because you're not seeing the big picture. They lost nothing by letting Cotto and Canelo keep the belt this long. Nothing. In the meantime, they won the IBF belt and now they're going to take care of the mandatory so they can keep it. They just kicked the WBC can down the road a bit and all that's happening is the pressure's building for Canelo to take the fight. I believe GGG wants to unify. He and his team have been consistent about it for the past couple of years. Maybe he's not quite as desperate for the payday as you think?

I don't think you understood my post at all. You might've jumped in mid-convo.

[IMDAZED]

You can't justify it just by saying other fighters made concessions.

If Canelo dropped the belt he should be absolutely crucified.

Justify what? My point is that if GGG wants that big fight, he'll have to make concessions. Whether you think that's right or wrong. Other fighters did it. Forgive me if the idea that in order to achieve greatness you need to make a sacrifice doesn't sound crazy.

[robertzimmerman]

There's only one reason to ask for a catchweight, to weaken your opponent. It being for a title doesn't change that fact. Lil G has no right to complain when he himself asked for a catchweight fight. Fuck him.

A CW should be put in place to make a fight happen between two fighters who fight in different divisions, not between two fighters from the same division.

[Robbie Barrett]

Really?

I'm not talking about your average CW.

Give me a list of fighters who had to drop weight to fight for lineal belts, even though they were current champs and established fighters in their divisions at the time.

It stinks.

B..b..but it's for a title. That doesn't mean ****, the affects of a catchweight on the body doesn't suddenly change because there's a title on the line. It's the only excuse you little G nuthuggers can run with, to try and defend him being an hypocrite.

[bug0092]

I don't think you understood my post at all. You might've jumped in mid-convo.

Ah, you're right. Sorry about that.

[-PBP-]

Of course fighters have made concessions and taken risks. But how many fighters in the past, who were champs, had to drop weight to fight for the lineal belt?

This is mind boggling.

Canelo should be absolutely roasted here.

He weighs in as a LHW on fight night, yet he's supposedly too small to fight at the limit?

Come on now.

If the division is too big for him, he should have stayed at JMW.

He is now obligated to fight at MW, as the lineal title holder.

If he wants to weigh in at 155, fine, but he shouldn't be able to dictate what a fellow champion has to weigh in at.

How can any real boxing fan support this?

I don't think it's a matter of supporting it. It's a matter of understanding it. Canelo as the A-side wants every advantage possible going into one of the most difficult fights of his career.

It's a bit*h move but what can you do?