Floyd Mayweather says B-Side Golovkin should face Canelo at 155

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  • Reloaded
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    #61
    Originally posted by RetroSpeed05
    Wasn't Floyd against CW's? What was it that he said to Cotto when he was talking about Pac vs Cotto? Or was it more bull**** he was spewing?
    Its called life is about perspective not concrete , fck me if everything you ever said was engraved in stone Im sure you would be saying a lot of but but but that was a different deal .

    Its very easy to see whats behind this , didnt GGG call Floyd out at 154 .

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      #62
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      I can't see how anyone has an issue with what Floyd said here. He gave to get. Canelo gave to get. Kovalev gave to get. Bhop gave to get. Hagler gave to get. GGG can give to get.
      You can't see an issue??

      Floyd's circumstances were completely different, and anyone who advocates a guy who weighs in as a LHW on fight night demanding a CW for a lineal belt, is an absolute moron who isn't a true fan of the sport.

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        #63
        Originally posted by PBP.
        I have mixed feelings about this.

        1. GGG has done nothing wrong. He makes weight, beats all the ranked contenders, defends his title and deserves a shot to become the middleweight champion of the world.

        2. However, boxing isn't fair and all the greats had to give in at some point in their careers. It is what it is.
        Of course fighters have made concessions and taken risks. But how many fighters in the past, who were champs, had to drop weight to fight for the lineal belt?

        This is mind boggling.

        Canelo should be absolutely roasted here.

        He weighs in as a LHW on fight night, yet he's supposedly too small to fight at the limit?

        Come on now.

        If the division is too big for him, he should have stayed at JMW.

        He is now obligated to fight at MW, as the lineal title holder.

        If he wants to weigh in at 155, fine, but he shouldn't be able to dictate what a fellow champion has to weigh in at.

        How can any real boxing fan support this?
        Last edited by robertzimmerman; 02-19-2016, 07:58 PM.

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          #64
          Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
          He's correct in the context he's speaking.

          Mayweather, Pacquiao, Cotto, Canelo, Hopkins, Oscar....these guys all made a sacrifice to secure massive fights.

          If GGG is only interested in the belts then I get his '160 only' stance, but if he's looking to get the big fights and become a major star, you have to be willing to sacrifice a little bit.
          How many of those guys MOVED DOWN to fight for a lineal belt?

          What a load of nonsense.

          You can't just list examples of fighters who made concessions and took risks.

          The circumstances are different.

          You can't justify it.

          GG will probably take risks and move up at some point after he's unified the MW division.

          It's unbelievable that Canelo isn't being ripped, considering he can weigh more than GG does on fight night at MW, when he fights as a JMW.

          It's scandalous.

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            #65
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            Yeah, I mean the belt doesn't matter. They want Canelo obviously and that's what it's about. But you gotta give ass to get it. And you have to make some sacrifices. So if you truly want the fight against an A-lister, that might mean dropping in weight. Or gaining weight. Mayweather had to do it. Pacquiao had to do it. Jones had to do it. Hopkins had to do it. The list goes on.
            Those guys didn't have to do it.

            Making concessions and moving up a division, is not the same as a current champ moving down to fight for a lineal belt.

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              #66
              Originally posted by robertzimmerman
              Those guys didn't have to do it.

              Making concessions and moving up a division, is not the same as a current champ moving down to fight for a lineal belt.
              Yeah but who cares about the belt? You think if Canelo dropped it tomorrow, GGG would be satisfied with that result? Those guys made concessions not because they wanted a belt but because they wanted the big money and elite status. Mayweather is saying GGG will have to make sacrifices if he wants that as well.

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                #67
                Originally posted by zerosixthree
                I know it's been this way for quite some time now but when exactly was it decided that the more popular fighter should be able to decide how fair a fight should be.

                Exactly when was it decided that if a fighter had the leverage he should be able to deicide what weight class, what ring size, what glove size, who officiates and who carries out drug testing and whatever else he could think of to give an unfair advantage to himself.

                Exactly when did you guys decide that you don't want to see the best fighters fight the best at their best?

                This isn't two fighters from different weight classes trying to find a middle ground in order for the fight to be made. This is two fighters in the same division, one of which is trying to weaken another fighter because he can and he does not want a fair fight.

                Why do you support this? Because one boxer has obnoxious fans and you guys got all emotional about it? Why do you think this is okay?
                Great post.

                Boxing is being ruined with **** like this.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Reloaded
                  Yeah I hate that about boxing but it cannot be any other way because they are free agents so off course they are going to exercise their PPV power , their ratings , their fan base , anyway that one can be more powerful at the negotiating table they will push that angle , he is the A side the other guy is the B side , the fans can argue all they want who they think that is , the only way to know is to sit in on the negotiation where the layers not fanboys lay it on the table .

                  To be honest when the A and B crap starts I dont really care who is saying what so long as the fight is made , when we lose the fight because of it I think somebody is not being reasonable , nothing wrong with GGG saying ok we go at 157 , if either of them knocked back 157 they dont want the fight .
                  Rules are rules.

                  A fighter should never be bigger than the sport.

                  The lineal title is being defended against a mandatory, who is already an established MW and a fellow champ.

                  That's it.

                  There shouldn't be anything else to discuss.

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                    #69
                    There's only one reason to ask for a catchweight, to weaken your opponent. It being for a title doesn't change that fact. Lil G has no right to complain when he himself asked for a catchweight fight. Fuck him.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Jbee310
                      Lil g said not even 158.... Just goes to show u who really isnt trying to make the fight
                      Wise up man!

                      Why aren't you jumping on Canelo?

                      He has ENTERED into GG's division.

                      He has moved up and won the lineal belt.

                      He weighs in sometimes as a LHW when he fights as a JMW.

                      If he won't fight at 160, it is HE and not GG who doesn't want the fight.

                      What's wrong with you guys?

                      This isn't the WWE.

                      Are you a boxing fan or not?

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