who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

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  • Zaroku
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    #991
    I wonder if Tate was on PED's to beat Holly???

    I wonder if McGreggir was on PEDS, or an IV.

    Man Vargas has increased his power..

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    • Zaroku
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      #992
      I wonder if Marquez drinking pee increased his punching power. Was he recycling PED's???

      I wonder if Manny or Floyd drank each other's urine...

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        #993
        I think Holly Holm would whip PAC & Freddy in slow motion on PEDs...

        Marquez would be drinking his 40 oz glass of PED urine.. In slow motion.

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        • Zaroku
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          #994
          Now my Jhonny wants PED's like all the top fighters have... Like PAC, Floyd and Marquez so he can up his power. Less than 6 lbs.. He doesn't need to cut weight..

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            #995
            Johnny wants to work with Ariza, get his shakes, & memo... For more advanced training techniques...


            He want's to move up 12 weight classes to 22 lbs. naturally he wants all the belts in every division...

            WBCC world boxing Chihuahua Champion
            WBCA. World Boxing Chihuahua Association title.


            He wants USADA testing...

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            • ADP02
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              #996
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              you are not in a position to say whether Floyd was or wasn't dehydrated. you are now trying to tell me which factors are most important as if you are a medical expert.

              Sorry dude. You are saying he wasn't dehydrated because you are upset Manny lost and looking for a reason so you don't have to admit Floyd is just better.
              No you are confused again. I'm saying that Floyd was not severely dehydrated.



              How to ASSESS the DEGREE OF DEHYDRATION


              Assess the clinical signs and document the recent loss of weight.

              Weigh and compare with any recent (within 2 weeks) weight recordings.
              Do we have that information for Floyd? YES!!!

              Precise calculation of water deficit due to dehydration using clinical signs is usually inaccurate.
              The best method relies on the difference between the current body weight and the immediate pre-morbid weight. Which means the weight before the condition began.

              Do we have that information for Floyd? YES!!!


              Clinical signs of dehydration give only an approximation of the deficit.


              Patients with mild ( <4%) dehydration have no clinical signs. They may have increased thirst.

              Was Floyd's weight difference less than 4? YES!!! So that means that Floyd was just mildly dehydrated.




              Moderate dehydration (4-6%)
              - Mild decreased tissue turgor
              - Increased respiratory rate
              - Delayed CRT
              (Central Capillary Refill Time) > 2 secs


              Severe dehydration (>/= 7%)
              - Very delayed CRT > 3 secs, mottled skin
              - Other signs of shock (tachycardia, irritable or reduced conscious level, hypotension)
              - Deep, acidotic breathing
              - Decreased tissue turgor


              Other 'signs of dehydration' (such as sunken eyes, lethargy & dry mucous membranes) may be considered in the assessment of dehydration, although their significance has not been validated in studies, and they are less reliable than the signs listed above.

              Unless an accurate & recent loss of weight is available as a guide, calculating percentage weight loss by clinical signs is only an estimation.



              So calculating by checking the weight is the best method. Clinical signs only if weight differences are not known.


              Whatever way you look at this, Floyd was not severely dehydrated but thanks for participating!

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              • Zaroku
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                #997
                Originally posted by ADP02
                No you are confused again. I'm saying that Floyd was not severely dehydrated.



                How to ASSESS the DEGREE OF DEHYDRATION


                Assess the clinical signs and document the recent loss of weight.

                Weigh and compare with any recent (within 2 weeks) weight recordings.
                Do we have that information for Floyd? YES!!!

                Precise calculation of water deficit due to dehydration using clinical signs is usually inaccurate.
                The best method relies on the difference between the current body weight and the immediate pre-morbid weight. Which means the weight before the condition began.

                Do we have that information for Floyd? YES!!!


                Clinical signs of dehydration give only an approximation of the deficit.


                Patients with mild ( <4%) dehydration have no clinical signs. They may have increased thirst.

                Was Floyd's weight difference less than 4? YES!!! So that means that Floyd was just mildly dehydrated.




                Moderate dehydration (4-6%)
                - Mild decreased tissue turgor
                - Increased respiratory rate
                - Delayed CRT
                (Central Capillary Refill Time) > 2 secs


                Severe dehydration (>/= 7%)
                - Very delayed CRT > 3 secs, mottled skin
                - Other signs of shock (tachycardia, irritable or reduced conscious level, hypotension)
                - Deep, acidotic breathing
                - Decreased tissue turgor


                Other 'signs of dehydration' (such as sunken eyes, lethargy & dry mucous membranes) may be considered in the assessment of dehydration, although their significance has not been validated in studies, and they are less reliable than the signs listed above.

                Unless an accurate & recent loss of weight is available as a guide, calculating percentage weight loss by clinical signs is only an estimation.



                So calculating by checking the weight is the best method. Clinical signs only if weight differences are not known.


                Whatever way you look at this, Floyd was not severely dehydrated but thanks for participating!

                What about jhonny??? His pre fight IV... TUE..

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                  #998
                  Originally posted by GTTofAK
                  You were given facts like the NSAC rule specifically banning all injections not on the approved list. A statement is just a statement not a fact. The person can be lying you moron.
                  Is the wording you're referring to part of the revamping of the testing policy that came into effect after the Mayweather vs pac fight? If so, it's kind of pointless to keep bringing it up.

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                  • Zaroku
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                    #999
                    Originally posted by ADP02
                    I'm not saying that Floyd was not dehydrated (was thirsty). What I'm saying is that Floyd was not severely dehydrated to the point that he required an IV.

                    Like I said, there is a mountain of evidence that supports my case. Floyd's weight was stable for 30 days. They weighed him just before getting that IV. That in itself shoots down anything you can come up with. That is why you are having such a hard time with this. THAT IS WHY YOU ARE DEFLECTING.

                    TRUST ME. Read this thread and others related to this subject. Not just you but all Floyd fans that are taking this bullet for their hero FLoyd is doing it. They will all come back with their own reasons for everything about this IV scandal except this one point. They cannot so they resort to what you are doing.

                    So to say, if you had something, you would have let us know every single time someone mentioned the word IV. BUT YOU CANNOT ..... what a struggle! .



                    .

                    Everyone gets thirsty.. He could have had a V-8 or Sunny Delight... But he wanted an IV...


                    Let it go... Let it go.... Frozen... In the record books...

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                    • Lester Tutor
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                      #1000
                      Originally posted by Zaroku
                      I wonder if Tate was on PED's to beat Holly???

                      I wonder if McGreggir was on PEDS, or an IV.

                      Man Vargas has increased his power..
                      Vargas is one of my favorite fighters right now. He's so quick with that right and counters on incoming offensive attacks like Rigo or Lara. That Cuban style makes a difference. He has that overhanded right spot on. The kid has so many styles and likes to brawl.

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