who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[Lester Tutor]

Dayum... boxlng insider is blocked? Jake Donovan where uou is?!

[Rath]

Lots of twisting and turning...and epic fail.

"Middlesbrough's Abel Xavier was banned in November 2005 from football for 18 months by UEFA for taking anabolic steroids after testing positive for dianabol after a UEFA Cup match on 29 September 2005. He is the first player in Premiership history to be banned for using performance-enhancing substances, as opposed to recreational drugs"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping...otball#England


"On February 2, 2012, U.S. federal prosecutors officially dropped their criminal investigation with no charges."

"On October 10, USADA published the details of its findings, in a 200-page report accompanied by over 1000 pages of supporting evidence, including testimonies from 11 former teammates and 15 other witnesses."

"On October 22, UCI announced that it would not appeal USADA's decision to the Court of Arbitration for Sport, meaning that it accepted USADA's sanctions of a lifetime ban for Armstrong and stripping of all results since August 1, 1998, including all his Tour de France titles."



"The study does not accurately follow the Athlete Biological Passport (ABP) guidelines, and therefore its relevance to the ABP is not entirely clear."
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wada...ssport-report/


Anyone can -> Mayweather did? Faulty logic.


“I don’t want to take any credit and I don’t want to be penalized for any result or any outcome that might happen, before or after the fight, when I’m not involved and I’m not working with Floyd,” Heredia said via Fighthype.com. “If he wanted to do it [work with me], it’s too late already. It [the fight] is already four weeks away. I’m not going to take a chance at that.” - Heredia


"There’s one significant correction in it that I accept. Prior to USADA’s September 17 statement, it was widely believed that its doping control officer went to Mayweather’s Las Vegas home to conduct an unannounced drug test and found evidence of an IV being administered to Mayweather. USADA maintains – and I will accept - that “Mr. Mayweather declared the infusion in advance to the USADA DCO.”"


"The second prominent allegation Hauser offers is that Mayweather’s testosterone: epitestosterone ratio is su****ious and the subsequent conclusion that he may be administering epitestosterone to hide his testosterone use. Again, there is plenty of “2+2=5” thinking going on here."

"...just last month, a study on the steroid profile of 4,195 male football players in UEFA competition was published. The results showed T/E ratios varied between 0.02 and 8.6 with roughly one-third of players showing a T/E ratio less than or equal to 0.9. Mayweather’s T/E ratio was low, slightly below average but is it so low as to allow us to draw the conclusions Mr. Hauser is suggesting?"
http://behindthegloves.com/thomas-ha...yd-mayweather/


So much proof that he did cheat, huh?

"Pacquiao will no longer appeal case to NSAC"
http://www.minibalita.com/reader/320...l-case-to-NSAC

USADA Responds to Hauser
http://www.usada.org/wp-content/uplo...Tom-Hauser.pdf



What about Richard Shaefer?

The reported date of when this conversation occurred is inaccurate. USADA informed NYSAC Chairwoman Melvina Lathan of the A sample positive, by phone, on October 17, 2012, the day prior to the publication of the Halestorm Sports story. The timing of this conversation is supported by public comments made by Richard Schaefer on October 18, 2012 (see http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&o...e&id=58332#ixz z29hgz0vCS and http://www.si.com/boxing/counter- punch/2012/10/19/morales-tests-positive-for-banned-substance- prior-to-bout-with-garcia?sct=hp_t2_a9&eref=sihp).


Do you still want more? You're done, son. I've embarrassed you continuously. Tuck your tail and never return.

nice job mate full archive of posts brought about by your running around the bush. well done.

told you you were not after the truth. you are just trying to messed up everything for floyd.

see the red color? how did it becomes a UEFA topic? this is brought about by genius floyd fans defelction and diversion technique.

the topic will be the nose and it will end up in ears hahahahaha

but the real question is have you already established that floyd was dehydrated May 1st. nope because you were not there when it happened.

[Dosumpthin]

Lots of twisting and turning...and epic fail.

"Middlesbrough's Abel Xavier was banned in November 2005 from football for 18 months by UEFA for taking anabolic steroids after testing positive for dianabol after a UEFA Cup match on 29 September 2005. He is the first player in Premiership history to be banned for using performance-enhancing substances, as opposed to recreational drugs"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping...otball#England


"On February 2, 2012, U.S. federal prosecutors officially dropped their criminal investigation with no charges."

"On October 10, USADA published the details of its findings, in a 200-page report accompanied by over 1000 pages of supporting evidence, including testimonies from 11 former teammates and 15 other witnesses."

"On October 22, UCI announced that it would not appeal USADA's decision to the Court of Arbitration for Sport, meaning that it accepted USADA's sanctions of a lifetime ban for Armstrong and stripping of all results since August 1, 1998, including all his Tour de France titles."



"The study does not accurately follow the Athlete Biological Passport (ABP) guidelines, and therefore its relevance to the ABP is not entirely clear."
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wada...ssport-report/


Anyone can -> Mayweather did? Faulty logic.


“I don’t want to take any credit and I don’t want to be penalized for any result or any outcome that might happen, before or after the fight, when I’m not involved and I’m not working with Floyd,” Heredia said via Fighthype.com. “If he wanted to do it [work with me], it’s too late already. It [the fight] is already four weeks away. I’m not going to take a chance at that.” - Heredia


"There’s one significant correction in it that I accept. Prior to USADA’s September 17 statement, it was widely believed that its doping control officer went to Mayweather’s Las Vegas home to conduct an unannounced drug test and found evidence of an IV being administered to Mayweather. USADA maintains – and I will accept - that “Mr. Mayweather declared the infusion in advance to the USADA DCO.”"


"The second prominent allegation Hauser offers is that Mayweather’s testosterone: epitestosterone ratio is su****ious and the subsequent conclusion that he may be administering epitestosterone to hide his testosterone use. Again, there is plenty of “2+2=5” thinking going on here."

"...just last month, a study on the steroid profile of 4,195 male football players in UEFA competition was published. The results showed T/E ratios varied between 0.02 and 8.6 with roughly one-third of players showing a T/E ratio less than or equal to 0.9. Mayweather’s T/E ratio was low, slightly below average but is it so low as to allow us to draw the conclusions Mr. Hauser is suggesting?"
http://behindthegloves.com/thomas-ha...yd-mayweather/


So much proof that he did cheat, huh?

"Pacquiao will no longer appeal case to NSAC"
http://www.minibalita.com/reader/320...l-case-to-NSAC

USADA Responds to Hauser
http://www.usada.org/wp-content/uplo...Tom-Hauser.pdf



What about Richard Shaefer?

The reported date of when this conversation occurred is inaccurate. USADA informed NYSAC Chairwoman Melvina Lathan of the A sample positive, by phone, on October 17, 2012, the day prior to the publication of the Halestorm Sports story. The timing of this conversation is supported by public comments made by Richard Schaefer on October 18, 2012 (see http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&o...e&id=58332#ixz z29hgz0vCS and http://www.si.com/boxing/counter- punch/2012/10/19/morales-tests-positive-for-banned-substance- prior-to-bout-with-garcia?sct=hp_t2_a9&eref=sihp).


Do you still want more? You're done, son. I've embarrassed you continuously. Tuck your tail and never return.

Man you made that guy look like an even bigger dumbass than before! Didn't think it was possible but yep! Look at him.


A high school wrestling coach doesn't know **** about boxing.

[Zaroku]

nice job mate full archive of posts brought about by your running around the bush. well done.

told you you were not after the truth. you are just trying to messed up everything for floyd.

see the red color? how did it becomes a UEFA topic? this is brought about by genius floyd fans defelction and diversion technique.

the topic will be the nose and it will end up in ears hahahahaha

but the real question is have you already established that floyd was dehydrated May 1st. nope because you were not there when it happened.

Vargas surprised me.. Ali needed PEDS... Great fight.

Did you watch it??

[Rath]

I posted scales are not used to measure dehydration. You pretended I said losing weight isn't a sign of dehydration and then gave an answer to the question is weight loss a sign of dehydration. When has anyone ever used a scale to determine if you were dehydrated or not?

Again, you can believe whatever you wish. Just like the rest of the clowns you are using Manny losing to drive your opinion of whether Floyd was dehydrated or not. It is never valid to use the outcome to drive your opinion of things prior to that outcome.

You haven't met any standard of proof except for those upset with the outcome of the fight.

weighing scale is the equipment you use to see if you gain or lose weight.

one of the indicator of dehydration is lost of weight.

but that does not mean you have to use only a weighing scale to see if you are dehydrated.

genius floyd fan and his logic


SHAME ON YOU

[GTTofAK]

Do you still want more? You're done, son. I've embarrassed you continuously. Tuck your tail and never return.

Here is a hint moron, quoting USADA's press release over and over again is not fact. USADA said that they contacted the NYSAC on the 17th. The NYSAC denied this in writing stating that their first contact was on the 18th. USADA has been caught in a lie. False in one false in all.

Noting USADA said in their press release is fact. Only one statement from USADA had the possibility of being verified by an outside source and that was the claim that they had told the NYSAC on the 17th. That claim was false. That means that USADA's entire statement is worthless.

[Rath]

http://www.lifescript.com/health/bri..._symptoms.aspx

Severe dehydration symptoms include:

let's apply Dunn's logic here "scales are not used to measure dehydration"

what he thought people do when they feel dehydrated.

-Not enough urination - i think you are dehydrated, well let's weigh you up to confirm if you are dehydrated or not.- Check

-Dry, shriveled skin - i think you are dehydrated, well let's weigh you up to confirm if you are dehydrated or not.- Check

-Irritability or confusion - i think you are dehydrated, well let's weigh you up to confirm if you are dehydrated or not.- Check

-Dizziness or lightheadedness - i think you are dehydrated, well let's weigh you up to confirm if you are dehydrated or not.- Check

-Rapid heartbeat - i think you are dehydrated, well let's weigh you up to confirm if you are dehydrated or not.- Check

-Breathing rapidly - i think you are dehydrated, well let's weigh you up to confirm if you are dehydrated or not.- Check

-Sunken eyes - i think you are dehydrated, well let's weigh you up to confirm if you are dehydrated or not.- Check

-Shock (lack of blood flow through the body) - i think you are dehydrated, well let's weigh you up to confirm if you are dehydrated or not.- Check

-Unconsciousness or delirium - i think you are dehydrated, well let's weigh you up to confirm if you are dehydrated or not.- Check

Perhaps Floyd's weight was stable. (what do you mean perhaps, it was documented) spin

What if he had any of the above symptoms as well ( floyd weight stable but he have a sunken eyes we saw that at the weigh in, he must be dehydrated) spin

( I am not saying he did). what if he were cramping or had other signs of mild dehydration? (floyd's weight was stable but but but he must be cramping and have sunken eyes, he must be dehydrated) spin

My point is you are acting like stable weight ELIMINATES THE POSSIBILITY of severe dehydration when nothing I have seen indicates that is a fact. Manny losing is driving you to make this conclusion, not the information available.

Show some honesty. dude. stop acting like you care about Tim. You HATE Floyd and do not give a **** ass about Tim. You didn't spend 5 years hating on tim like you did Floyd.

has any genius floyd fans ever thought or suspected floyd was dehydrated or insinuated that floyd was or might be, or looks, dehydrated in any of their post in this board before he was caught with IV?

has any of NSB poster ever thought or suspected Floyd was dehydrated or insinuated that floyd was or might be, or looks dehydrated in any of their post in this board before he was caught with an IV?

spin that genius floyd fans

SHAME ON YOU

[tangalog2200]

They will **** on me... For my errors... I will offer no excuses...

Provide a revised project plan. With a plan b and c... Let them sign off.. And fire a few guys... This motivates people to keep handling their business..

My theory is.... If you gotta stay long hours to do your job... The work structure is wrong... Or you don't know what you are doing....

I only care about results... My bosses care more about results... Everyone has a boss...

Thanks..

I got thick skin at this point...

Btw...

My bosses would not approve of this dwelling on an old fight crap... Nor sign off on it... It is not productive...

Lessons learned... Then move the **** on...

"My bosses would not approve of this dwelling on an old fight crap... Nor sign off on it... It is not productive...

Lessons learned... Then move the **** on..."

hey, buddy....you're on a roll!...

after posting the above i think you have about 16 more posts of pure hogwash....

enjoy!

[Zaroku]

"My bosses would not approve of this dwelling on an old fight crap... Nor sign off on it... It is not productive...

Lessons learned... Then move the **** on..."

hey, buddy....you're on a roll!...

after posting the above i think you have about 16 more posts of pure hogwash....

enjoy!

How long ago was the fight...
What will this thread achieve???

It is Over!! Really!!!

What will come of it...

Vargas vs Granados. Who wins... At WW!!!

War Mexicans!!! Thank God, for my Mexican fighting GOD's!!!

PAC ain't crap
Floyd ain't crap

[JimEarl]

If a fighter's opponent insists on a contract free of controls then you've got to assume the worst and make arraignments accordingly.

Thus it is in cycling or big bucks boxing. To do it otherwise is an injustice to your own fighter.