who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

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  • Real King Kong
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    #1991
    This is still going on...

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    • Spoon23
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      #1992
      Originally posted by considerthis
      This is still going on...
      Yup.. Floyd still winning the cheating game hehehe

      You better help support your fl0mo comrades who are getting beat up in here. Support your cause. Do your part so that your fraud hero will have a fighting chance in clearing his name .
      Last edited by Spoon23; 04-06-2016, 09:50 PM.

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      • Zaroku
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        #1993
        Originally posted by Zaroku
        Alex Ariza : Let me tell you something, in my opinion, that's another lie that they offered Manny something. The Manny I know won't take aspirin, he won't take anti-inflammatories, he won't take cortizone, he won't do any of that SH$t. He won't do it .........

        Dr. Ariza:
        He won't take an aspirin, he won't take cortisone!

        Dr. Zaroku
        Then, why the hell did he want Toradol??

        This is really great stuff !!
        Spoon, & co. Zaroku here. Why don't you guys come clean. My above post is interesting.
        They are all cheats. PAC lost, get ver it. My poll for who came closest shows your God didn't do crap. Thin tight socks was obviously the true reason.

        Pathetic.

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        • ADP02
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          #1994
          Originally posted by travestyny
          Didn't I already explain? What is it that you don't understand?
          No I need to understand what you are getting at that happened. Please explain.


          WADA's statement and USADA's statement on the matter are not conflicting.



          Once again, the quotation that you give is not present at the link you give. Why are you trying to pass this off as WADA's statement? It is a 3rd party who is interpreting what WADA stated. Again, you talk about USADA misinterpreting WADA but this 3rd party you take as WADA's statement, when WADA doesn't even remotely say the same thing. Furthermore, WADA allows the IV use to be justified by a medical practitioner. You are not going to get around this.




          I'm not sure what you can't understand. Go back, read it again, and stop pretending that what you posted is WADA's statement. I've posted information directly from WADA. How about you?
          I never said that the quote came from WADA. I told you where it came from and they are the ones that provided the link after making that clarification NOT ME!







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          WADA has clarified that the use of IV infusions to treat mild dehydration or simply accelerate recovery IS NOT an acceptable medical use of IVs in sport.

          For more information please read https://www.wada-ama.org/en/resource...cs-intravenous
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          This is a credible source. USADA(USA), Canada, UK, Japan all direct athletes there.


          The above is a clarification that they got from WADA and in part, explains what is in that link that they provided. So yes there is a conflict

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          • Zaroku
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            #1995
            Originally posted by considerthis
            This is still going on...

            Lives and dreams were destroyed. Miss Universe got some revenge on Floyd, just how she did, nobody really knows.

            HAHAhahahahahahaha!!'

            Too sad at this point.

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            • travestyny
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              #1996
              Originally posted by ADP02
              No I need to understand what you are getting at that happened. Please explain.
              What happens is that you need the medical practitioners documents. Told you that a billion times.


              Originally posted by ADP02
              I never said that the quote came from WADA. I told you where it came from and they are the ones that provided the link after making that clarification NOT ME!







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              WADA has clarified that the use of IV infusions to treat mild dehydration or simply accelerate recovery IS NOT an acceptable medical use of IVs in sport.

              For more information please read https://www.wada-ama.org/en/resource...cs-intravenous
              **********************************************

              This is a credible source. USADA(USA), Canada, UK, Japan all direct athletes there.


              The above is a clarification that they got from WADA and in part, explains what is in that link that they provided. So yes there is a conflict
              Clarification that they received from WADA? Really? Where does it say they received that statement from WADA?

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              • ADP02
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                #1997
                Originally posted by travestyny
                What happens is that you need the medical practitioners documents. Told you that a billion times.




                Clarification that they received from WADA? Really? Where does it say they received that statement from WADA?

                So you cannot come up with a valid explanation with what you brought up. Cool. No problem.




                **********************************************
                WADA has clarified that the use of IV infusions to treat mild dehydration or simply accelerate recovery IS NOT an acceptable medical use of IVs in sport.

                For more information please read https://www.wada-ama.org/en/resource...cs-intravenous
                **********************************************

                This is a credible source. USADA(USA), Canada, UK, Japan all direct athletes there.


                ADO's direct athletes to this organization for a reason.

                It is to get valid information on a substance or method that they intend to use. Once you verify the substance or method and if it is prohibited or not then you can submit it as reference that you went there to get your information. If the information is wrong, then what? Well may be it would be considered "fairness" in that it was not a fault of the athlete that they used something on the advice from this organization. So of course they will have the latest and greatest information there. Can they make mistakes? Sure, nobody is perfect

                but

                the point is that they used WADA's name when they made the clarification.

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                • travestyny
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                  #1998
                  Originally posted by ADP02
                  So you cannot come up with a valid explanation with what you brought up. Cool. No problem.




                  **********************************************
                  WADA has clarified that the use of IV infusions to treat mild dehydration or simply accelerate recovery IS NOT an acceptable medical use of IVs in sport.

                  For more information please read https://www.wada-ama.org/en/resource...cs-intravenous
                  **********************************************

                  This is a credible source. USADA(USA), Canada, UK, Japan all direct athletes there.


                  ADO's direct athletes to this organization for a reason.

                  It is to get valid information on a substance or method that they intend to use. Once you verify the substance or method and if it is prohibited or not then you can submit it as reference that you went there to get your information. If the information is wrong, then what? Well may be it would be considered "fairness" in that it was not a fault of the athlete that they used something on the advice from this organization. So of course they will have the latest and greatest information there. Can they make mistakes? Sure, nobody is perfect

                  but

                  the point is that they used WADA's name when they made the clarification.
                  Looks like you can't point to WADA making this statement itself. Again, does WADA make the statement. Is it ANYWHERE in WADA's documents? Yes or no?

                  I gave you information straight from WADA that says the medical practitioner can justify the IV use. You want to keep bringing up what a 3rd party says, fine. Even if WADA does make that statement, which it clearly does not, you still have no proof that the use wasn't justified by a medical practitioner. Why are you clinging to this 3rd party statement when it doesn't help your argument at all?

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                  • Zaroku
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                    #1999
                    Originally posted by Spoon23
                    Yup.. Floyd still winning the cheating game hehehe

                    You better help support your fl0mo comrades who are getting beat up in here. Support your cause. Do your part so that your fraud hero will have a fighting chance in clearing his name .
                    Pac only got two votes in my poll about who came closest to beating Floyd.

                    Hahahahahaha!
                    I wish you could vote more! Your idol needs it.

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                    • travestyny
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                      #2000
                      Originally posted by Dosumpthin
                      ADP02 doesn't understand dehydration can be caused by something. Which explains his fixation on Floyd's weight 30 days prior.



                      He also says USADA misinterpreted WADA code - which is a counter argument to something I pointed out within an USADA document about iv use dated before the fight was even announced - but still thinks USADA shows favoritism to Floyd by allowing the iv. Logically, you can't have it both ways. But we aren't dealing with logic. Just speculation based on a conspiracy to make Manny lose.
                      It's really quite funny. He's stating that USADA misinterpreted WADA, yet he is trumpeting this other agency that claims WADA confirmed that an IV can't be used to treat dehydration, yet WADA's own documents never state that. So USADA misinterprets, but this other agency that can provide no proof of what they claim, gets it right.

                      I smell a hypocrite. This would be very simple if he can just show where WADA clearly states that an IV shouldn't ever be used to treat dehydration, but for some reason he can't do it. Hmm.

                      He's all over the place. Notice how he doesn't bring up the OR subject anymore since I pointed him to WADA's own document that proved he was wrong. Another reason he is trying to cling to this 3rd party agency so much.

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