who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[Zaroku]

http://www.topendsports.com/nutritio...on-methods.htm

Body Weight Changes

An effective and simple way to determine the level of dehydration is to monitor body weight changes. Taking a body weight measure each morning (after emptying the bladder) can show a pattern of hydration over time. If you wish to determine how much fluid is lost during exercise, body weight can be measured before and after exercise. With this testing method, other factors such as fluid intake and fluid and weight losses through going to the toilet must also be taken into account. To determine amount of sweat loss during exercise, start with the measure of body mass after exercise minus the weight before. Any volume of drinks taken during exercise will need to be added to this value, and toilet losses subtracted. Therefore:


sweat loss = (weight before - weight after) + fluid intake - toilet losses

When measuring body mass, it is usually to measure semi-nude, and to towel off any sweat on the skin after exercise. For more about measuring sweat loss, see the sweat loss testing method. You can also analyze the sweat once you have collected it using sweat patches, and look at the site specific sweat rate.


How is human dehydration measured?

4 Answers Kenneth Lam Kenneth Lam, MD

Richard Pladdet, MD, specialist elderly care; Radbout University Nijmegen 2013; physician Leiden University 2004

https://www.quora.com/How-is-human-dehydration-measured

A good question. It's surprisingly difficult.

If you are speaking about strictly how much water is in an individual's body, the most accurate method is to check their day to day weight. Most rapid changes in weight are due to fluid losses. If they've dropped weight quickly and there's a story to back it up (e.g. grandma tripped and fell and she may have been on the floor for days), it's likely dehydration.

Other quick methods to take a guess at someone's level of hydration include checking vitals (a rapid heart rate suggests dehydration), skin turgor (dehydrated people's skin stays up longer when you pinch it into a little tent), and checking their urine output (if it's under 0.5mL/kg/day, they may be dehydrated). Of these, urine output is probably the most reliable method. Thirst is also a good symptom to go by if the person is conscious.

Other fancy methods that have emerged include using ultrasound to assess the fullness of the inferior vena cava, the main vein feeding back to the heart from the lower body, and using how conductive the human body is to estimate its water content.

However, all of these methods are rough guesses. The gold standard method injects you with radioactive fluid and watches to see how dilute it gets over time. This, unfortunately, is not rapid enough or cheap enough to be practical though.
So - it seems easy but ends up being more complex than it seems. Fluid isn't uniformly distributed throughout the body, and furthermore, the pumps that move fluid around and the containers for the fluid also function dynamically.

If, by chance, you were asking with some Quantified Self device in mind, I don't know if there's an elegant solution.

Dunn... At this point I just poke fun at fanatics. They are ****ing funny.

I want to see Vargas vs Granados... That would be an amazing war...

Sorry for being off topic... But this thread is dead... This thread is dead...

Did you enjoy watching Vargas whip Sadam Ali??

[The Big Dunn]

Dunn... At this point I just poke fun at fanatics. They are ****ing funny.

I want to see Vargas vs Granados... That would be an amazing war...

Sorry for being off topic... But this thread is dead... This thread is dead...

Did you enjoy watching Vargas whip Sadam Ali??

Yeah, I get your point. I usually leave it alone but today I decided to post a little.

Yes. I was surprised Vargas won.

[GTTofAK]

This is effective to determine hydration OVER TIME, not as a one time measure like the one we are discussing with Floyd. This is the point you seem to keep overlooking.

The only one overlooking this is you. Froid was weighed in multiple times leading up to the fight. His weight was consistent. 150.5 one month out. You are trying to argue that Froid was dehydrated without losing significant weight.

[GTTofAK]

You were given the facts. Just like I have given you the facts you facts in regards to nsac allowing ivs

You were given facts like the NSAC rule specifically banning all injections not on the approved list. A statement is just a statement not a fact. The person can be lying you moron.

[Dosumpthin]

Uh yes it is you moron.

You didn't even read it ass wipe. Read the entire statement.

[The Big Dunn]

The only one overlooking this is you. Froid was weighed in multiple times leading up to the fight. His weight was consistent. 150.5 one month out. You are trying to argue that Froid was dehydrated without losing significant weight.

Nowhere does it state stable weight is proof that an individual is not suffering from dehydration. You parsed a piece of an overall definition of symptoms and trying to pass it off as fact.

When you parse a comma or a omit a conjunction (and, but, or) you alter the actual definition.

Simply put, peanut butter and jelly is very different from peanut butter or jelly. You are replacing and with or such that you are suggesting any 1 symptom is proof when the actual definition says all must be present.

You are doing this, again, because you are upset Floyd defeated Manny.

[Zaroku]

Nate Diaz got to Connor, choked him out... I wonder if Nate used an IV? Or Connor???

Nate said everyone uses PED's...

This is a PED thread... Right???

[Zaroku]

In slow motion..... I think Connor tapped out really quick... Maybe he needed an IV after.

I think Nick needed one... So much blood lost...

Or was it to mask PED usage??

[ADP02]

http://www.lifescript.com/health/bri..._symptoms.aspx

Severe dehydration symptoms include:

-Not enough urination

-Dry, shriveled skin

-Irritability or confusion

-Dizziness or lightheadedness

-Rapid heartbeat

-Breathing rapidly

-Sunken eyes

-Shock (lack of blood flow through the body)

-Unconsciousness or delirium

Perhaps Floyd's weight was stable. What if he had any of the above symptoms as well ( I am not saying he did). what if he were cramping or had other signs of mild dehydration?

My point is you are acting like stable weight ELIMINATES THE POSSIBILITY of severe dehydration when nothing I have seen indicates that is a fact. Manny losing is driving you to make this conclusion, not the information available.

Show some honesty. dude. stop acting like you care about Tim. You HATE Floyd and do not give a **** ass about Tim. You didn't spend 5 years hating on tim like you did Floyd.

Hmmm, I'm seeing lots of posts from you right now. You are on a roll.


But I see that you are wrong again!

Floyd's weight is the most important part of the equation!!! That is how you can assess the degree of dehydration. The other stuff is important too and I will explain why it is.

Floyd's weight? Relatively stable.
Floyd's vital signs? Better than normal. Optimal.
All the above you listed, Floyd didn't have except for his "my urine was darker"

So going by Floyd's weight, vitals and what you listed, Floyd was not clinically dehydrated. You can consider urine but without the other factors that is not enough.

[The Big Dunn]

Hmmm, I'm seeing lots of posts from you right now. You are on a roll.


But I see that you are wrong again!

Floyd's weight is the most important part of the equation!!! That is how you can assess the degree of dehydration. The other stuff is important too and I will explain why it is.

Floyd's weight? Relatively stable.
Floyd's vital signs? Better than normal. Optimal.
All the above you listed, Floyd didn't have except for his "my urine was darker"

So going by Floyd's weight, vitals and what you listed, Floyd was not clinically dehydrated. You can consider urine but without the other factors that is not enough.

you are not in a position to say whether Floyd was or wasn't dehydrated. you are now trying to tell me which factors are most important as if you are a medical expert.

Sorry dude. You are saying he wasn't dehydrated because you are upset Manny lost and looking for a reason so you don't have to admit Floyd is just better.