who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[ADP02]

ironically, I have spoken about each fighter in the thread title. ''not even able...'' you say

but then you have Victor Conte, a man you stated in the previous IV main thread, is the dude that stated Pac was on the roids, or even more specifically, roid regulation in the phillipines as he stated is just soooo kosher!

''Manny, why won't you do WADA style testing?'' - Brian Kenny ESPN circa 2010.

Is talking about Manny deflecting ala thread title, or is this about your fantasy responses for attention?

Manny was your response to my question? More deflections! GOT YOU!!!



BTW - Manny was just concerned that giving blood may affect his training and the fight.
Example: Give blood then train may have affected his training.

Floyd called the above BS. Ironically that is Floyd's excuse now. To make things worse, Floyd wants us to believe that giving blood 10 days before was the cause of his severe dehydration.


I responded to this and all questions. YOU HAVE ONLY DEFLECTED. Its an easy question. Why did Floyd require an IV? Was he really that severely dehydrated? I say no. You say yes? Right? How is that possible?
GOT YOU!!!

[ADP02]

You've got nothing. You and the other pac turds are restricted to a few threads on a boxing forum to repeat the same garbage everyday and claim victory because everyone gets fed up of explaining the same thing to you, which you completely ignore.

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF HE WAS/WASN'T DEHYDRATED, HE BROKE NO NSAC RULE WHICH ARE THE RULES HE'S REQUIRED TO FOLLOW.

We waited 5+ years because the NSAC standards were not good enough according to Floyd and his fans. Or do you now have amnesia too? So Floyd wanted Manny to accept the GOLD standard (according to Floyd) being USADA. GOT YOU!!!


USADA statement below confirms what I said:

"Nonetheless, because Mr. Mayweather was voluntarily taking part in a USADA program, and therefore subject to the rules of the WADA Code"

GOT YOU!!!

[Dosumpthin]

We waited 5+ years because the NSAC standards were not good enough according to Floyd and his fans. Or do you now have amnesia too? So Floyd wanted Manny to accept the GOLD standard (according to Floyd) being USADA. GOT YOU!!!


USADA statement below confirms what I said:

"Nonetheless, because Mr. Mayweather was voluntarily taking part in a USADA program, and therefore subject to the rules of the WADA Code"

GOT YOU!!!

I feel somewhat responsible for your recent pychotic behaviour given my contribution to the thread. But then I find solace in the fact that on may 2nd, Floyd himself, is the reason behind the destroyed lives of thousands of pact@rds worldwide. And I realize I'm not a bad guy for pointing it out.

[Lester Tutor]

Manny was your response to my question? More deflections! GOT YOU!!!

BTW - Manny was just concerned that giving blood may affect his training and the fight.
Example: Give blood then train may have affected his training.

Your stating to become like that Rath head. Early in the IV thread the kid was getting owned, then when the heat started pressuring the kid started saying ''Genius Floyd Fans'' changing tone of voice...

Now you're coming off desperate as of late with a ''Got You.'' ?

Yeah, it's very practical for a fighter to say ''I don't want to give blood because it weakens me.''

But seriously doe..I'm happy Floyd ruins your day! Don't let theories own you homie, Hauser doesn't care that you went for the bait either. Grow out of it bruv.

[Dosumpthin]

DEFLECTION CITY!!! GOT YOU!!!

In other words, YOU and other Floyd fans have nothing and cannot think of how its even possible that Floyd had to have an IV since the truth is that the medical community says that there are alternatives to an IV and USADA/WADA agree on this? GOT YOU!!!

Floyd could have easily been severely dehydrated due to a case of acute diarrhea caused by an undisclosed illness or infection. Unless you have evidence that proves Floyd's stool was solid, I'm going to go on record and Floyd needed an iv because of the ****s.

Prove me wrong. You can't.

GOT YOU!

We can speculate all day long. Or we can go with the facts. Your choice.

And don't deflect. Explain how it is not possible floyd had the runs.

[tangalog2200]

Floyd could have easily been severely dehydrated due to a case of acute diarrhea caused by an undisclosed illness or infection. Unless you have evidence that proves Floyd's stool was solid, I'm going to go on record and Floyd needed an iv because of the ****s.

Prove me wrong. You can't.

GOT YOU!

We can speculate all day long. Or we can go with the facts. Your choice.

And don't deflect. Explain how it is not possible floyd had the runs.

"Floyd could have easily been severely dehydrated due to a case of acute diarrhea caused by an undisclosed illness or infection"

if the above be the case, the question is was there a doctor who examined floyd? who decided on using an iv?

it will be a merry-go-round affair again as the circumstances of floyf using an iv more than the allowed volume without medical prescription is concerned...

you and others speculate on why floyd needed the 750ml iv....

but in my mind, the question is why floyd took the iv in the manner he did...

[Lester Tutor]

"Floyd could have easily been severely dehydrated due to a case of acute diarrhea caused by an undisclosed illness or infection"

if the above be the case, the question is was there a doctor who examined floyd? who decided on using an iv?

it will be a merry-go-round affair again as the circumstances of floyf using an iv more than the allowed volume without medical prescription is concerned...

you and others speculate on why floyd needed the 750ml iv....

but in my mind, the question is why floyd took the iv in the manner he did...

what allowed volume are you speaking of? up to 2000ml is common practice for liquids via IV. depending on the amount of water loss. no human feels the exact degree of dehydration symptoms. it's almost pointless to talk about since everybody is of different weights and fats.

as I said countless of times, but anybody can get an IV if not feeling well. In many countries if a person has a flu and has diarrhea they go an get an IV with antibiotics and works a hell of a lot faster than drinking water and taking the antibiotics. it's understandable for people to not have a clue of IV pleasure if you haven't had one personally.

and lastly, Floyd loves McD's. clearly it's guaranteed employees always wash their hands.

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[Dosumpthin]

"Floyd could have easily been severely dehydrated due to a case of acute diarrhea caused by an undisclosed illness or infection"

if the above be the case, the question is was there a doctor who examined floyd? who decided on using an iv?

it will be a merry-go-round affair again as the circumstances of floyf using an iv more than the allowed volume without medical prescription is concerned...

you and others speculate on why floyd needed the 750ml iv....

but in my mind, the question is why floyd took the iv in the manner he did...

We dont know the details of his medical condition that justfied the iv use because thomas hauser is not authorized to veiw confidential medical records. And niether am i or anyone else. All we know is he followed the rules of USADA WADA and NSAC and they APPROVED it and ACKNOWLEDGED floyd passed ALL TEST before and after.


The rest is ****** speculation that means nothing. Just like me speculating for the sake of making a ****** theory to dispell another ****** theory. Niether one of them can be proven or disproven. Its pointless. So i say floyd was dehydrated because he couldnt stop ****ting.


But im interested in your medical knowledge and expertise.

Can you tell me the correct amount of iv fluid required to rehydrate a 150lb athlete?

[travestyny]

Athletes can use an IV to dehydrate BUT someone like Floyd and Lance Armstrong cannot.

Why? Because they are under the WADA rules which USADA is supposed to adhere too. Meaning, they would be breaking their own rules!!!
GOT YOU!!!



a) YOU said its NOT possible. Show me how its possible to do FILL IN THE BLANK. I answered ALL your questions and by responding to how its possible
GOT YOU!!!


b) The HT example of Hauser of 8% can be accomplished by some. The T/E levels that were mentioned by Hauser is still a red flag. GOT YOU!!!


c) Science? Show us science as to how FLoyd was so dehydrated that he required an IV? GOT YOU!!!



You played the "got you" game thinking that we couldn't respond to your questions. Once we did then you were left with deflecting. Either by changing the subject, saying the word "speculation" and so on.

Again, I was just responding to your question of "How its possible" but if you look back, I also stated that there are several scenarios that are possible. ONLY Floyd can tell you which one he used. GOT YOU!!!




Just because you are trying to make it a joke it does not mean it cannot happen. Again, I'm bringing up the point that there are several ways to beat the test. GOT YOU!!!




NO. You kept on saying "HOW IS IT POSSIBLE" type of silly questions. Which showed your ignorance on this subject. Then when I answered you tried to deflect. GOT YOU!!!




You are still stuck on my question 1. Floyd was not severely dehydrated and Floyd came in weight EASILY according to Floyd (not me). Lots more evidence points to Floyd not requiring an IV. Until you can answer this properly GOT YOU!!!GOT YOU!!!

LMAO. Welcome to mental meltdown!

I told you to walk away and maintain some dignity. Now look what happened to you. You have reached Spoon/Rath level ******ation.

And that's how I know: GOT YOU!

It's over, homie.

[tangalog2200]

what allowed volume are you speaking of? up to 2000ml is common practice for liquids via IV. depending on the amount of water loss. no human feels the exact degree of dehydration symptoms. it's almost pointless to talk about since everybody is of different weights and fats.

as I said countless of times, but anybody can get an IV if not feeling well. In many countries if a person has a flu and has diarrhea they go an get an IV with antibiotics and works a hell of a lot faster than drinking water and taking the antibiotics. it's understandable for people to not have a clue of IV pleasure if you haven't had one personally.

and lastly, Floyd loves McD's. clearly it's guaranteed employees always wash their hands.

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you missed the point entirely.....

the iv incident became an issue because floyd used way more than the allowed amount...

this is not only about why and how much iv floyd needed but the issue was the manner he got it....

you refer to "human" above conveniently forgetting floyd is no ordinary human...he is/was a boxer who have rules to follow....otherwise, this would have been a non-issue...