who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

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The main point is that there was no official word that he was dehydrated, yet I haven't heard you rail against him using an IV. Is it because he lost? You know damn well that an IV has been used for rehydration purposes. You also know damn well that NSAC has never declared a fighter to have been dehydrated. We already discussed that.

So how do you jump to "he must have been masking because he wasn't dehydrated." The article I pointed you to states that there is some credence given to the opinion that he wasn't severely dehydrated, and I have no problem with that. I've already stated myself that I don't believe he was dehydrated to the point that he would have to be rushed to a hospital. To say he wasn't dehydrated to any extent, I don't believe one bit. Like many other fighters, he used it to rehydrate. He stated it in the video that you goons misunderstood.

"Alex Ariza showed me how to rehydrate like a professional." Did you think he meant Ariza taught him how to drink water?

See, here is the problem with your version.

Oscar could have been on PEDs, so could have others ..... the main difference is that in Oscar's contract using an IV was not illegal. For Floyd it was!!!

Floyd's weight was stable for 30 days. Its science. Dehydration means you lost fluids which in turn means you lose weight. The scales prove otherwise. You too are now stating this. That article says this. Everyone says this.

It is illegal!!!

[travestyny]

Sorry bud but you are getting tangled up.

I explained it before but I also pointed out that only Floyd can tell you exactly how he did it.

It all starts with the IV. There was no reason for it. If there was no reason for it then Floyd was trying to hide the real reason. PEDs!!!

- Floyd was more than likely micro-dosing right after he was tested. Using his previous testing experience with USADA to calculate when would be the next time and dosing accordingly.

What if the they calculated wrong?
- With the fight being 1 day away, they didn't expect to be tested the day before. So they had to delay and use the IV.

I gave you 2 possibilities for fight night but the more likely is that they knew that test was coming so they had already calculated for that one but I also gave you how they could have done it if that was not the case.

I answered all .... but you can't come up with why Floyd needed an IV.

Man, the first part in red is all I need to know. Thank you. Just admit that you have no proof and you are guessing to fit your agenda. That's all you have to say, homie.

Second, why would he be microdosing right after the test to fight the next day? Really? Does that make sense to you? What about whatever he was masking? When the masking effect wears off, doesn't that show up in the tests? But according to you they are microdosing AFTER being tested? What?

You are tripping up homie. Possibilities...how they could have done it....yah yah yah. This reads like a fiction novel. PROOF!!! That's what we need.

Just man up and state that you have no proof. That's all. Look, I understand that you don't like the man. I do. I admit that I have no proof that Manny used PED's. No problem. You have no proof homie. Just drop it already. I'm tired of going thru essays with you about pure speculation.

[travestyny]

See, here is the problem with your version.

Oscar could have been on PEDs, so could have others ..... the main difference is that in Oscar's contract using an IV was not illegal. For Floyd it was!!!

Floyd's weight was stable for 30 days. Its science. Dehydration means you lost fluids which in turn means you lose weight. The scales prove otherwise. You too are now stating this. That article says this. Everyone says this.

It is illegal!!!

We've already been through what would make it illegal. The truth is, if we can't get USADA's documentation on Mayweather's condition, we can't prove that he didn't fit into USADA's criteria for what they would allow a TUE for. That's the simple truth.

However, the argument does severely fall apart when you try to jump from IV use to PED use. That article I pointed you to clearly states why. Seems that you know it because to fit your agenda, you are attempting to add all of these other things that you believe he could have done. The article casts serious doubt that he was using PED's by explaining how the numbers Hauser trumpeted were all wrong, how the science behind the masking doesn't work out, and how the T/E ratio argument doesn't provide any proof. It's all right there. There is really nothing more to say about this.

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Man, the first part in red is all I need to know. Thank you. Just admit that you have no proof and you are guessing to fit your agenda. That's all you have to say, homie.

Second, why would he be microdosing right after the test to fight the next day? Really? Does that make sense to you? What about whatever he was masking? When the masking effect wears off, doesn't that show up in the tests? But according to you they are microdosing AFTER being tested? What?

You are tripping up homie. Possibilities...how they could have done it....yah yah yah. This reads like a fiction novel. PROOF!!! That's what we need.

Just man up and state that you have no proof. That's all. Look, I understand that you don't like the man. I do. I admit that I have no proof that Manny used PED's. No problem. You have no proof homie. Just drop it already. I'm tired of going thru essays with you about pure speculation.

You are either deflecting or not understanding. You can let me know.

There are several scenarios that I presented you with. Right? Only Floyd can tell you which scenario was the correct one.


Micro-dosing
I'm not talking about what you said.
I meant from the day that the fight was signed Floyd micro-dosed.
When was the best time to do it? Right after he got tested. Reason? Do I need to explain this? Easy to understand.

[ADP02]

We've already been through what would make it illegal. The truth is, if we can't get USADA's documentation on Mayweather's condition, we can't prove that he didn't fit into USADA's criteria for what they would allow a TUE for. That's the simple truth.

However, the argument does severely fall apart when you try to jump from IV use to PED use. That article I pointed you to clearly states why. Seems that you know it because to fit your agenda, you are attempting to add all of these other things that you believe he could have done. The article casts serious doubt that he was using PED's by explaining how the numbers Hauser trumpeted were all wrong, how the science behind the masking doesn't work out, and how the T/E ratio argument doesn't provide any proof. It's all right there. There is really nothing more to say about this.

It all falls in place once you realize that the IV excuse just does not add up.


EDIT: I read your post too fast .... NO, the article is incorrect. It deflects and I told you so. Yes Floyd could mask with 750ml of an IV.



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Heard King Pact@rd spoon is banned... He will be back to support the PAC posse!!!

Peace brother... Headed to the movies with my girl!!!

Thanks for the heads up! I was wondering ........


Which movie?

[travestyny]

You are either deflecting or not understanding. You can let me know.

There are several scenarios that I presented you with. Right? Only Floyd can tell you which scenario was the correct one.


Micro-dosing
I'm not talking about what you said.
I meant from the day that the fight was signed Floyd micro-dosed.
When was the best time to do it? Right after he got tested. Reason? Do I need to explain this? Easy to understand.

You're right, I'm not following something here.

You believe (with no proof) that he began micro-dosing when the fight was made, but after he was tested? After which test?

Then, he felt a need to mask...just in case.

Then he possibly used another IV to mask after the fight (which is laughable).

And on top of all of that, he paid USADA millions just in case he failed.

That's a lot of accusations to throw around WITHOUT ANY PROOF. He passed how many blood and urine tests? CIR, ABP, seemingly got lucky that the urine he was forced to give before masking didn't throw off the test, or (yet another theory) it was only droplets.

This is pure fiction. When do I read about unicorns and leprechauns?

But again, not sure what you meant. After beginning testing he began micro-dosing?

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You're right, I'm not following something here.

You believe (with no proof) that he began micro-dosing when the fight was made, but after he was tested? After which test?

Then, he felt a need to mask...just in case.

Then he possibly used another IV to mask after the fight (which is laughable).

And on top of all of that, he paid USADA millions just in case he failed.

That's a lot of accusations to throw around WITHOUT ANY PROOF. He passed how many blood and urine tests? CIR, ABP, seemingly got lucky that the urine he was forced to give before masking didn't throw off the test, or (yet another theory) it was only droplets.

This is pure fiction. When do I read about unicorns and leprechauns?

But again, not sure what you meant. After beginning testing he began micro-dosing?

You know what micro-dosing means?

It means to use just enough PEDs to avoid getting caught.

Now Floyd could have used at night just enough that there are no traces the next morning but the best approach is to use a slightly higher dose right after being tested. From experience, they do not test back to back days.

but in the case that they mis-calculate their dosing or do not feel too confident that the test will not catch traces of PEDs, they go into their delay and IV plan. Which they did!!!


Again, only Floyd knows which scenario .....

and no, its not what you say. Others have stated similar scenarios. I can give you direct quotes from the unicorns and leprechauns themselves!!!

There is a technique that is used. It all depends how much of a gambler you are. I heard that Floyd is a big gambler.

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seemingly got lucky that the urine he was forced to give before masking didn't throw off the test, or (yet another theory) it was only droplets.

Like I told you days ago. This is combined with what Floyd gave after the IV. We do not know how much before the IV that the first sample was provided. So to say, there could have been a delay.

Still, like I said, it was all part of their plan more than likley. I can explain it more if you wish.

[travestyny]

You know what micro-dosing means?

It means to use just enough PEDs to avoid getting caught.

Now Floyd could have used at night just enough that there are no traces the next morning but the best approach is to use a slightly higher dose right after being tested. From experience, they do not test back to back days.

but in the case that they mis-calculate their dosing or do not feel too confident that the test will not catch traces of PEDs, they go into their delay and IV plan. Which they did!!!


Again, only Floyd knows which scenario .....

and no, its not what you say. Others have stated similar scenarios. I can give you direct quotes from the unicorns and leprechauns themselves!!!

There is a technique that is used. It all depends how much of a gambler you are. I heard that Floyd is a big gambler.

lol. Get out of here! You're alright with me. You actually make me laugh (not being a d*ck. Saying I think ur pretty cool of all the pacroaches).

But this whole he micro-dosed but then had to scramble on the day before the fight....why then? Is that just the time he got caught with the IV...even though even Hauser now admits he wasn't "caught" with the IV.

Lots of speculation, bro. But have at it. Just stop writing me essays. I have better things to do. lol