who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[Dosumpthin]

that you have to apply first for TUE before you are allowed to IV? no.

Floyd notified USADA prior to and was in the presence of the dco for the iv.

USADA rules allow for a retroactive application for a tue.


I must say I'm impressed, I've never met your kind of ****** before.

[Rath]

Floyd notified USADA prior to and was in the presence of the dco for the iv.

USADA rules allow for a retroactive application for a tue.


I must say I'm impressed, I've never met your kind of ****** before.

spare me the kindergarten insult.

floyd notified USADA of the IV infusion "according to USADA" but they only applied for TUE 19 days later.

retroactive application or retroactive TUE?

you know the difference between notification and application you genius one?

[Dosumpthin]

spare me the kindergarten insult.

floyd notified USADA of the IV infusion "according to USADA" but they only applied for TUE 19 days later.

retroactive application or retroactive TUE?

you know the difference between notification and application you genius one?

An application for a TUE will only be considered for retroactive approval where:

a. Emergency treatment or treatment of an acute medical condition was necessary; or

b. Due to other exceptional circumstances, there was insufficient time or opportunity for the Athlete to submit, or for the TUEC to consider, an application for the TUE prior lto Sample collection; or

c. It is agreed, by WADA and by the Anti-Doping Organization to whom the application for a retroactive TUE is or would be made, that fairness requires the grant of a retroactive TUE.


AS PER USADA.

Now explain yourself.

"Submit an application prior to sample"

Do you need me to explain further?

Most likely you do.

That means that the application would be submited AFTER....therefore making the application a retroactive one.


So now in typical pact@rd ****** conspiracies I expect you to say something really dumb.

[ADP02]

An application for a TUE will only be considered for retroactive approval where:

a. Emergency treatment or treatment of an acute medical condition was necessary; or

b. Due to other exceptional circumstances, there was insufficient time or opportunity for the Athlete to submit, or for the TUEC to consider, an application for the TUE prior lto Sample collection; or

c. It is agreed, by WADA and by the Anti-Doping Organization to whom the application for a retroactive TUE is or would be made, that fairness requires the grant of a retroactive TUE.


AS PER USADA.

Now explain yourself.

"Submit an application prior to sample"

Do you need me to explain further?

Most likely you do.

That means that the application would be submited AFTER....therefore making the application a retroactive one.


So now in typical pact@rd ****** conspiracies I expect you to say something really dumb.

Floyd could apply for a TUE. USADA does not need to stop that from occurring but lets cut the BS today from the Floyd fan perspective.

1) YOU nor any other Floyd fan has given us any type of reason that Floyd required an IV. Right? GOT YOU

2) Again, Floyd can apply just like I can apply to NASA to be an astronaut but USADA and NASA had to REJECT the applications due to their own rules!!!! GOT YOU. That is, Floyd and myself are not qualified. Floyd was not dehydrated to the point of requiring an IV and I'm not qualified to be an astronaut!!!
GOT YOU AGAIN!!!

Man, its so much easier acting like a Floyd fan and playing the GOT YOU game. At least I responded to their questions and came up with an answer as to how its possible to whatever question YOU and other FLoyd fans had. Its YOUR turn. Respond or we can continue this GOT YOU game.




.

[ADP02]

IV wasn't illegal under NSAC rules. They've come out and said Mayweather did nothing wrong.

Floyd volunteered to go by USADA's rules. This includes not being allowed to use an IV. GOT YOU.

Floyd was not severely dehydrated and you FLoyd fans have not shown us any way that would be possible. GOT YOU.

You can request like I can apply to NASA but USADA had to then reject Floyd's application according to their own rules!!! GOT YOU.

[Robbie Barrett]

Floyd volunteered to go by USADA's rules. This includes not being allowed to use an IV. GOT YOU.

Floyd was not severely dehydrated and you FLoyd fans have not shown us any way that would be possible. GOT YOU.

You can request like I can apply to NASA but USADA had to then reject Floyd's application according to their own rules!!! GOT YOU.

USADA followed NSAC rules, Mayweather followed USADA's.

You and i are not doctors and didn't examine Mayweather.

USADA was following NSAC rules.

[Dosumpthin]

Floyd could apply for a TUE. USADA does not need to stop that from occurring but lets cut the BS today from the Floyd fan perspective.

1) YOU nor any other Floyd fan has given us any type of reason that Floyd required an IV. Right? GOT YOU

2) Again, Floyd can apply just like I can apply to NASA to be an astronaut but USADA and NASA had to REJECT the applications due to their own rules!!!! GOT YOU. That is, Floyd and myself are not qualified. Floyd was not dehydrated to the point of requiring an IV and I'm not qualified to be an astronaut!!!
GOT YOU AGAIN!!!

Man, its so much easier acting like a Floyd fan and playing the GOT YOU game. At least I responded to their questions and came up with an answer as to how its possible to whatever question YOU and other FLoyd fans had. Its YOUR turn. Responds or we can continue this GOT YOU game.

I was dealing with the other pact@rd and his ******ity about retroactive tues. Please address him because you need to seperate yourself from him.

But as far as you......

I really don't give **** about the iv. Its takes an extreme pact@rd to think the iv is a issue. You can't prove he wasn't dehydrated all you can do is speculate. And the single iv use, which he notified usada of prior to using it and a gave a urine sample, can not mask any ped that would be effective on fight night. Its not why Manny lost. Period. Then he was tested afterward.


You're better off blaming the shoulder.


Edit: I'll tell you what since you are not ****** like rath, I'll entertain you some more. What is the official medical condition and can we get that information from USADA? If not, then why?

[Lester Tutor]

Floyd volunteered to go by USADA's rules. This includes not being allowed to use an IV. GOT YOU.

Floyd was not severely dehydrated and you FLoyd fans have not shown us any way that would be possible. GOT YOU.

You can request like I can apply to NASA but USADA had to then reject Floyd's application according to their own rules!!! GOT YOU.

1. ''except''

2. Floyd was drinking water all the time during the weigh ins and in an interview. at least I have not heard anyone state that perhaps Floyd was drinking in front of cameras to signal a possible degree of dehydration so he and everybody involved including Pac would get away with the whole hoax?

3. There's no control over an emergency situation if a patient is requesting an IV. This is generalized even outside of sports, general patient care. Again Lance got away with abuse before WADA had been focused on EPO tricks. So therefore, how does Floyd get away with the ''blood doping'' you guys always reference?

[ADP02]

Look, this is the last time I'm going to entertain your inquiries over this. You really have to let it go.

1. The IV was used for rehydration. There are plenty of athletes who have used IV's for rehydration. Using an IV is a well documented way to rehydrate. I shouldn't even have to give you proof of that. The information is out there. .

Athletes can use an IV to dehydrate BUT someone like Floyd and Lance Armstrong cannot.

Why? Because they are under the WADA rules which USADA is supposed to adhere too. Meaning, they would be breaking their own rules!!!
GOT YOU!!!

2. You have been all over the place trying to connect the use of the IV to PED use. You failed. Not only were you not able to give any proof, only speculation, but I showed you plenty of times how the scenario is unlikely. The numbers don't add up to what Hauser claimed, the science doesn't add up. .

a) YOU said its NOT possible. Show me how its possible to do FILL IN THE BLANK. I answered ALL your questions and by responding to how its possible
GOT YOU!!!


b) The HT example of Hauser of 8% can be accomplished by some. The T/E levels that were mentioned by Hauser is still a red flag. GOT YOU!!!


c) Science? Show us science as to how FLoyd was so dehydrated that he required an IV? GOT YOU!!!

3. Inserting your own speculation is pointless. You can do this for any athlete including Manny Pacquaio during his match against Mayweather..

You played the "got you" game thinking that we couldn't respond to your questions. Once we did then you were left with deflecting. Either by changing the subject, saying the word "speculation" and so on.

Again, I was just responding to your question of "How its possible" but if you look back, I also stated that there are several scenarios that are possible. ONLY Floyd can tell you which one he used. GOT YOU!!!

4. The logic doesn't add up. You wrote that Mayweather micro-dosed, and though he passed 16 tests while micro-dosing, he felt a need to mask with an IV perhaps multiple times. For those non-documented IV uses, he masked that he masked with an IV somehow, his urine test that came after the IV should have come up positive because the partial urine sample he gave from before the IV was when he was dehydrated, and that would cause a positive according to you. He also paid off USADA, but had to micro-dose, mask, mask his masking, and whatever else you concocted up. You provided no clear way that he would have passed the final two tests that came after the fight when the masking effect of the IV would have been null and void. Your logic is clearly off. .

Just because you are trying to make it a joke it does not mean it cannot happen. Again, I'm bringing up the point that there are several ways to beat the test. GOT YOU!!!

5. You believe that because Lance beat tests, Floyd DID cheat. That's not a logical conclusion. Furthermore, you ignore that USADA was on Lance with test results, witness testimony, and over 1000 pages of documents in an attempt to prove he cheated, but instead you believe they would be OK helping Floyd cheat?.

NO. You kept on saying "HOW IS IT POSSIBLE" type of silly questions. Which showed your ignorance on this subject. Then when I answered you tried to deflect. GOT YOU!!!

Yea. It's over. Once again, try to retain some dignity and just walk away.

You are still stuck on my question 1. Floyd was not severely dehydrated and Floyd came in weight EASILY according to Floyd (not me). Lots more evidence points to Floyd not requiring an IV. Until you can answer this properly GOT YOU!!!GOT YOU!!!

[ADP02]

USADA followed NSAC rules, Mayweather followed USADA's.

You and i are not doctors and didn't examine Mayweather.

USADA was following NSAC rules.

Is that your response? Really? Then why request (FLOYD) and why approve a TUE (USADA)?

Why did USADA confirm that IV is a banned method in this case?

GOT YOU!!!