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  • REYESdelBOXEO
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    #121
    Originally posted by casheddie
    If Canelo gets stripped and GGG has to fight for the title, it will only hurt Canelo and GBP. If you think it won't then your hatred for GGG has overcome you. Canelo's fans will move over to the G side and things will turn for GGG.

    I disagree , because CANELO fought Lara and didn't want Lara's belt to be on the line and that fight was put on PPV and it sold 300-350 thousand units, more then double what Golovkin's PPV sold. CANELO has more then earned himself some bargaining chips. CANELO has done a lot in the sport for only being 25. Canelo won't lose any fans , and if Golovkin ever mans up , Canelo fans will have his back , pack the Arena and boo the hell out of Golovkin and order the PPV. GGG is losing a lot of fans, they know he is a certified ducker. Props to Amir Khan for stepping up and taking a risk for glory.
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    • Xoahr
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      #122
      Originally posted by REYESdelBOXEO
      I disagree , because CANELO fought Lara and didn't want Lara's belt to be on the line and that fight was put on PPV and it sold 300-350 thousand units, more then double what Golovkin's PPV sold. CANELO has more then earned himself some bargaining chips. CANELO has done a lot in the sport for only being 25. Canelo won't lose any fans , and if Golovkin ever mans up , Canelo fans will have his back , pack the Arena and boo the hell out of Golovkin and order the PPV. GGG is losing a lot of fans, they know he is a certified ducker. Props to Amir Khan for stepping up and taking a risk for glory.
      How is GGG ducking? Canelo wants a 90-10 split at 155. GGG just wants to fight with the WBC rules (mandatory split, 55-45, without CW, allowed to go to the full MW limit). That's not asking much considering he's the mandatory opponent, holds 2 belts, fighting the lineal MW champ. These are also the WBCs rules - GGG doesn't need to agree to a CW too make the fight, nor agree to a bad financial deal. If Canelo wants to vacate instead, that's fine because GGG gets 3 belts, will probably fight Saunders, and then Canelo will have to fight him sooner or later if he ever wants a MW belt.

      Canelo is the duck here, trying to hide behind outrageous financial demands and a ****** CW when Canelo comes in heavier than GGG on fight night anyway. If Canelo vacates it's because he's scared. He's scared that at 160 he'll get embarrassed by Golovkin. The lineal MW champ is scared of getting TKO'd or KO'd by Golovkin. You can't hide behind the weight card - Canelo looked at least 175 against Cotto, and I bet he'll be 175 - 180 against Khan. That's heavier than GGG who usually walks in at 171 or 172.

      Just remember - this is a mandatory title defence. Not a voluntary. The B side gets more weight in negotiations because its a mandatory.

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      • Bronx2245
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        #123
        Originally posted by j0zef
        155 lbs is a weight.
        It falls in the MW division in boxing, which spans between 154.0001 and 160.0000 lbs.
        The question was "which fight was at 160?" The answer is "none." Canelo should NOT be the WBC MW Champ, but that's not 'his" fault! That's the WBC's fault!

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          #124
          Originally posted by HeroBando
          The contract weight was 157, which is nowhere near as bad as 155, esp considering Oscar was naturally much smaller, competing in his 6th division. Its pathetic youre supporting such a cowardly demand, one for the record books. Again, team Ggg is happy to give Canelo a CW, but not while the guy is holding the belt
          Once Canelo is stripped, he won't fight GGG, until "he's" ready. What will GGG do then? He will do what he's been doing, watching all the mega-fights as a fan! I'm just saying that he should do what other champions have done, accept the demand, and get money!

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          • casheddie
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            #125
            Originally posted by REYESdelBOXEO
            I disagree , because CANELO fought Lara and didn't want Lara's belt to be on the line and that fight was put on PPV and it sold 300-350 thousand units, more then double what Golovkin's PPV sold. CANELO has more then earned himself some bargaining chips. CANELO has done a lot in the sport for only being 25. Canelo won't lose any fans , and if Golovkin ever mans up , Canelo fans will have his back , pack the Arena and boo the hell out of Golovkin and order the PPV. GGG is losing a lot of fans, they know he is a certified ducker. Props to Amir Khan for stepping up and taking a risk for glory.
            The Lara situation is completely different because it wasn't Canelo's belt. Now Canelo is the champion and he is the lineal champ so it holds way more weight. GGG will be fine because he gets the hardcore fans to watch and the media is picking up his fights. By the end of this year if he keeps winning he's gonna be the biggest star in boxing.

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            • aboutfkntime
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              #126
              Originally posted by HeroBando
              Jesus I got this sorry idiot on ignore, but he still managed to fill up my entire phone screen with 5 blocked posts in a row. He's probably still quoting himself lol

              Tard-boy, you stated that Hypekin was..... " prepared to challenge the smaller A side champ at their weight ".....

              ..... well, give me one example of that EVER, you absolute clown ?

              Hypekin had 2 opportunities to be a man of his word, and yet HE TOTALLY REFUSED TO NEGOTIATE WITH COTTO AND CANELO.

              Cotto/Canelo happen to be the very same superstars who Hypekin should be desperate to fight...... but nope, nothing..... he totally walked away from those fights.

              He CHOSE to walk, rather than negotiate...... you shameless fanboy..... and yet, you stated the absolute opposite

              pac/ggg groupies are the lowest-of-the-low.

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              • aboutfkntime
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                #127
                Originally posted by Xoahr
                How is GGG ducking? Canelo wants a 90-10 split at 155. GGG just wants to fight with the WBC rules (mandatory split, 55-45, without CW, allowed to go to the full MW limit). That's not asking much considering he's the mandatory opponent, holds 2 belts, fighting the lineal MW champ. These are also the WBCs rules - GGG doesn't need to agree to a CW too make the fight, nor agree to a bad financial deal. If Canelo wants to vacate instead, that's fine because GGG gets 3 belts, will probably fight Saunders, and then Canelo will have to fight him sooner or later if he ever wants a MW belt.

                Canelo is the duck here, trying to hide behind outrageous financial demands and a ****** CW when Canelo comes in heavier than GGG on fight night anyway. If Canelo vacates it's because he's scared. He's scared that at 160 he'll get embarrassed by Golovkin. The lineal MW champ is scared of getting TKO'd or KO'd by Golovkin. You can't hide behind the weight card - Canelo looked at least 175 against Cotto, and I bet he'll be 175 - 180 against Khan. That's heavier than GGG who usually walks in at 171 or 172.

                Just remember - this is a mandatory title defence. Not a voluntary. The B side gets more weight in negotiations because its a mandatory.

                Link? or are you talking ****, like those other Golovkin fans ?


                You newly created Captain Save-A-Hoe accounts are hilarious.

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                • Xoahr
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                  Link? or are you talking ****, like those other Golovkin fans ?


                  You newly created Captain Save-A-Hoe accounts are hilarious.

                  Presumably you're aware, through your idiotic slurs, that Canelo wants a CW of Caneloweight. Multiple links that they want a 90-10 on this very site: /de-la-hoya-if-ggg-fight-now-canelo-gets-90-10-split--100312

                  Surprised you didn't know that, it was really big news and even more confirmation that Canelo is not serious about fighting GGG, especially as he's using Khan as his voluntary defence.

                  I don't think GGG ran from Cotto - he knew whoever was the victor of Canelo v Cotto would be a bigger fight with that win on their resume. He stepped aside, and is probably going to get screwed over - look at the people who have avoided GGG: Sturm, Martinez, Quillin, Saunders, Canelo now, even Froch retired two days after GGG made an offer to him. I'm pretty sure Johnson faked the injury to duck too, and Lara only called out GGG after he confirmed he would be fighting his mandatory, no time at all before when GGG was looking for a good fight.

                  Sadly, boxing fans can't just enjoy the fights, they also have to discuss business strategy. GGG would be best of fighting Canelo, but if that doesn't happen because of CW drama (157 or less is unacceptable), or money, GGG should force Canelo to vacate. People will see that as Canelo ducking. GGG should then fight Saunders, to be undisputed champ. If he hasn't fought Canelo, Canelo will be forced to fight GGG for a belt if he moves up - which he'll have to within 2 years. Power and technique are the last two things to go, and with the current MWs around, I can't see any of them beating GGG at 160 for the next 5 years at least.

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                  • bug0092
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Xoahr
                    Presumably you're aware, through your idiotic slurs, that Canelo wants a CW of Caneloweight. Multiple links that they want a 90-10 on this very site: /de-la-hoya-if-ggg-fight-now-canelo-gets-90-10-split--100312

                    Surprised you didn't know that, it was really big news and even more confirmation that Canelo is not serious about fighting GGG, especially as he's using Khan as his voluntary defence.

                    I don't think GGG ran from Cotto - he knew whoever was the victor of Canelo v Cotto would be a bigger fight with that win on their resume. He stepped aside, and is probably going to get screwed over - look at the people who have avoided GGG: Sturm, Martinez, Quillin, Saunders, Canelo now, even Froch retired two days after GGG made an offer to him. I'm pretty sure Johnson faked the injury to duck too, and Lara only called out GGG after he confirmed he would be fighting his mandatory, no time at all before when GGG was looking for a good fight.

                    Sadly, boxing fans can't just enjoy the fights, they also have to discuss business strategy. GGG would be best of fighting Canelo, but if that doesn't happen because of CW drama (157 or less is unacceptable), or money, GGG should force Canelo to vacate. People will see that as Canelo ducking. GGG should then fight Saunders, to be undisputed champ. If he hasn't fought Canelo, Canelo will be forced to fight GGG for a belt if he moves up - which he'll have to within 2 years. Power and technique are the last two things to go, and with the current MWs around, I can't see any of them beating GGG at 160 for the next 5 years at least.
                    You're wasting your time with it. GGG's people know exactly what they're doing. If Golovkin's willing to meet at a catchweight, they know it already but they're certainly not going to mention it at this point. I'm sure they have all possible scenarios worked out. Like you said, GGG has plenty of time.

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                    • bug0092
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by hitking
                      So who's closer in natural size, Ward and GGG, or Floyd and GGG?
                      At last weigh in..

                      FMJ = 146 for Berto
                      GGG = 159 for Lemieux
                      SOG = 172 for Smith

                      You do the math. Golovkin was wiling to cut for Floyd. Ward wasn't for GGG. What's your point?

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