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  • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
    You are completely wrong in what you say here.

    No world champion in the history of boxing has EVER refused to fight his mandatory challenger without a CW.

    Canelo's popularity will plummet if GGG has to get the WBC to strip him of their belt over this.

    And who is he going to fight next who would bring him as much money as GGG?

    Mark my words, if Canelo ducks GGG and Golovkin becomes the undisputed MW champ, by the time Canelo can no longer make 155 and has to start fighting at the real MW limit, he will be lucky to get 30% of the purse if comes back trying to fight Golovkin again.
    wtf?????? canelo would not lose his popularity for not fighting golovkin. that's completely absurd. pacquiao and mayweather gained popularly when they didn't fight each other.

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    • Originally posted by Xi_ View Post
      hey f.uckboy.....when you're the a side you can do whatever the hell you want....ray robinson did it, ray leonard did it, oscar did it, cotto did it, floyd did it and poochaio did it....and guess what all of those fighters had to do before gaining that status? they fought and beat the best! something that ggg has not come close to. lil g will either play his postion or continue to add bums that pathetic thing he calls a resume. now get lost.
      Not when they was in that divsion that didn't ...only when they was fighting another boxer who was in a divison above was there any concessions...canelo holds the middlweight belt and that's the 160lb version....you are with no brain son.....your low on intellect and morals ....so get back down that ********** hole you came from lol

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      • Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
        Hopkins had a middleweight title fight with Oscar at a catchweight. Sergio had a middleweight title fight with Cotto at a catchweight. Canelo had a Jr Middleweight title fight with Floyd at a catchweight. Cotto had a welterweight title fight with Manny at a catchweight. All titles fights contracted below the weight limit. Canelo is doing nothing new and just a few years ago he was on the other end of this. Canelo has NEVER said he is ready to fight at 160 and can vacate the belt and continue fighting Jr Middleweights and his fans will still support him. GGG is the idiot who already said he is willing to fight at 154 and can make that weight easily. Well if he wants that fight that is what he has to do.
        No world champion has EVER before demanded a catchweight to fight his mandatory challenger.

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        • Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
          Canelo has already taken less twice at the negotiation table to make big fights. And already agreed to a bigger stars catchweight demands. Now it's GGG's turn.
          FACT Canelo at 25 has already fought more then TWICE the amount of world champions then GGG has at age 33.
          FACT Canelo has fought multiple future Hall of famers. GGG has fought ZERO.
          FACT Canelo has fought multiple guys who were top 10 p4p ranked when he stepped in the ring with them. GGG has fought ZERO.
          FACT Canelo has campaigned in a much stronger division.
          FACT Canelo has fought EVERY fight the fans have asked and ducked nobody
          FACT In a 2 year span Canelo has fought Trout, Floyd, Lara, Cotto name a fighter who has faced tougher competition during this same time?

          GGG best win was against Geale who Cotto a Jr Middleweight destroyed easily in what 3 rounds? And Cotto is NOT the best Jr Middleweight Canelo has faced. 154 and 168 were both stronger divisions yet GGG refuses to do what is necessary to fight the guys at either weight. And GGG NOT Canelo said he could fight at 154 or 168. GGG has no leverage when you look at resumes and even less when you compare the amount of money each fighter generates. And looks like either a clown or liar when he says I can fight Floyd and Manny at 154 but not Canelo? And I can fight anyone at 168 except Ward I need a catchweight for him. Oh but wait aren't you GGG fans crying catchweights yet GGG did the same demand.
          After his win, Alvarez challenged Mayweather on national television. Mayweather is scheduled to fight on May 5th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Alvarez approached Oscar De La Hoya, President of Golden Boy Promotions, and requested a fight with Mayweather.
          "It's what I want, the Mayweather fight. That's what we put on the table. I feel more mature and for that I am willing to go down to 150 pounds," said Canelo to Sal Rodriguez. "De la Hoya said he was going to pursue the Mayweather fight [for me]. We are ready for it. It's what people want, for me to fight someone like [Mayweather]."

          Canelo a fraud point blank

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          • "This fight has to happen at some point, at whatever weight. There was a time where I had to give things up in order to have these big fights. I am now at a point where I don't have to give advantages to anyone. I believe this fight has to happen. It is necessary to wait until the moment [to work out the details] and I can see [the fight] happening in the short-term,"

            At whatever weight sounds pretty vague, it's the only comment where he discusses weight and it's definitely not a firm 155 or no fight comment as the title suggest.

            It's pretty clear GGG is going to have sacrifice something to get this fight made, either weight or get ****ed over financially. Many fighter with much more leverage have gone through this.

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            • Originally posted by Steve plunger View Post
              Not when they was in that divsion that didn't ...only when they was fighting another boxer who was in a divison above was there any concessions...canelo holds the middlweight belt and that's the 160lb version....you are with no brain son.....your low on intellect and morals ....so get back down that ********** hole you came from lol
              wtf are you talking about? oscar fought strum at mw before he fought bhop.....pacquiao fought oscar at ww before he fought cotto....floyd fought cotto at jmw before he fought canelo. you don't know s.hit about boxing, get off lil g's sack and learn the sport.

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              • 155 with a 90-10 split....Nelo is a BEAST!!!...Lil G won't get any love at the tables so he need to make weight and accept his cut.....he has 36 minutes to make Nelo pay for the ****ery....the A side has spoken!!

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                • Originally posted by Xi_ View Post
                  wtf?????? canelo would not lose his popularity for not fighting golovkin. that's completely absurd. pacquiao and mayweather gained popularly when they didn't fight each other.
                  Were Floyd and Manny ever mandated to fight each other for a world title?

                  Did one of them ever blatently duck the other by vacating, or being stripped of a title rather than fight?

                  No. There was never any clear cut situation where either one of them blatently ducked the other.

                  That's why they were able to keep their bullshit going for 7 years with muppets like you arguing about it on internet forums the whole time.
                  Last edited by kafkod; 01-15-2016, 11:40 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                    No world champion has EVER before demanded a catchweight to fight his mandatory challenger.
                    stop with the BS the mandatory means nothing. Floyd won the belt at 154 never fought his mandatory as he waited till the corrupt organizations elevated him to super champion so he never had to impose a catch weight on a mandatory but defended that titles for years lower then the 154 limit. What the F is the difference? Manny won the title at 147 and defended it multiple times below that weight what does it matter if the guy was mandatory or not which is all politics. Fact is if you wanted to fight floyd or Manny it was because they chose you and you had to fight at that weight and the organization that held the belt scrambled and changed the rules to make it legal. But there is no difference in floyd or Manny wanting a catchweight and canelo doing the same now.

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                    • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                      Were Floyd and Manny ever mandated to fight each other for a world title?

                      Did one of them ever blatently duck the other by vacating, or being stripped of that title rather than fight?

                      No. There was never any clear cut situation where either one of them clearly ducked the other.

                      That's why they were able to keep their bullshit going for 7 years with muppets like you arguing about it on internet forums the whole time.
                      you're putting waaaaay too much stock in these belts dude......belts don't make fighters, actual fights make the fighters. you think floyd really gives a flying **** about a belt if the fighter he was facing didn't bow down to his terms? and for pacquiao the same thing. their name alone transcends that rinky dink belt so does canelo's name.

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