Comments Thread For: Rodriguez: Ward Has The Style To Beat Kovalev and Golovkin

[aboutfkntime]

yeah but i disagree, Ward isn't much better. He is bigger, if he was the same size as Golovkin, same reach same hight and same division he will not be favored vs. Golovkin.

Ward fought and beat everyone in his division, and there is a perception out there that Ward is God... or the Son of God lol but really he only beat people who he is similarly sized with.

Golovkin also beat everyone he fought and he looked better doing it, and he beat people in his own division. Name recognition is better at 168, Froch is better known then murray, Kessler is better known then Geale, Abraham is better known then lemiux, but who did these guys beat? they only beat other 168 lbs, some did beat bigger guys (but not at bigger divisions), even though resume isn't in question here the main reason Ward is considered better is because people refer to his accomplishments of winning the super 6.

However i did watch Ward and i did watch Golovkin and as far as skill set i favor Golovkin. Golovkin can fight like ward (but he can't afford to as he needs to build his fan base), but ward will never be able to fight like Golovkin. The reason why i posted the link to the video is to illustrate how hard it is to hit GGG, and yes we all go back to the Monro fight but even for all his speed he barely landed on GGG.

Anyways they are all elite fighters with high level of skill, can't say one is much more skilled then another.

Then let's agree to disagree.

Ward is MUCH better than Golovkin in every single department except maybe raw power..... but raw power is soooo easily nullified by an elite boxer/mover.

Also, after reviewing tape..... I don't think that Golovkin will have any surprises whatsoever for Ward.

I don't even think the fight would be that competitive.

[Irony123]

Then let's agree to disagree.

Ward is MUCH better than Golovkin in every single department except maybe raw power..... but raw power is soooo easily nullified by an elite boxer/mover.

Also, after reviewing tape..... I don't think that Golovkin will have any surprises whatsoever for Ward.

I don't even think the fight would be that competitive.

alright lets see here. i will list things that i am confident GGG is better than Ward at
1) punch variety: Golovkin is better
2) body punching: Golovkin is better
3) punching power (i dont know what raw means, golovkin is smaller than ward so i don't think Raw applies): Golovkin is better
4) Stamina/workrate: Golovkin is better
5) cutting off the ring: Golovkin is better
6) accurate punching: Golovkin is better... Ward (39% vs Paul smith) Golovkin (49% vs. Monroe)

Might be other things but these are the things i am confident Golovkin does better than Ward.

[NateHound]

I truly don't know what you think you're watching.

Come on man, Ward is ELITE..... Golovkin aint landing on Ward.

Ward is likely the most well-rounded fighter in the game today.

Power is waaay over-rated, especially by casual fans..... Ward has been in there with plenty of tough 168lb'ers and he has sparred plenty of heavyweights.

Abraham was knocking every fool out, then he moved to 168, fought Ward, and got blitzed.

His power meant absolutely nothing to Ward.

Casual fans said AAAAAALL that same **** about Pacquiao/Mayweather.

You throw around casual fan like you think everyone who disagrees with you is a casual fan. Well I have a differing opinion and I've been consistently watching boxing since 1996. I don't think the word casual applies here.

For the record. I called MayPac an easy Decision for Mayweather.

As for Ward and GGG... I don't think many would argue with what you're saying about Ward. He is as well rounded as they come. He is a f***ing beautiful technician. He has enough power to keep chin checkers honest. Yet his pure boxing and athletic skills are on par with anyone in the sport.

What I'm saying is I think you underestimate GGG. He's a great boxer. Heavy handed. Uses the ring as well as anyone and can take clean hits from big hitters. You think Le Mew and Stevens flush right hands tickle?

I think Ward would and should be favoured. He's a bigger and faster guy. I just don't see it being an easy fight for him. I think GGG gives him hell and we see a war. Whichever guy could handle a tight war better wins.

[aboutfkntime]

alright lets see here. i will list things that i am confident GGG is better than Ward at
1) punch variety: Golovkin is better
2) body punching: Golovkin is better
3) punching power (i dont know what raw means, golovkin is smaller than ward so i don't think Raw applies): Golovkin is better
4) Stamina/workrate: Golovkin is better
5) cutting off the ring: Golovkin is better
6) accurate punching: Golovkin is better... Ward (39% vs Paul smith) Golovkin (49% vs. Monroe)

Might be other things but these are the things i am confident Golovkin does better than Ward.

1) disagree, Ward has every punch in the book..... but more importantly, his ringIQ/technique is far superior..... at using what you have effectively, Ward is the man

2) possibly true, but that more comes down to style, that is his game

3) I agree, but lets see how that power carries up

4) debatable, but irrelevant..... they both have enough stamina/workrate for their style..... Golovkins workrate will drop, just like Pacquiao's did, and for the exact same reason

5) I truly doubt it, Ward is a far superior technician.... you seem to forget, cutting off the ring is Golovkin's style, not Wards.... he should be good at it.

6) I seriously doubt it, and you can't pick just one fight. A couple of years back, Ward was 2nd to Mayweather on the compubox thrown/landed list..... but the main point is, Ward has fought a much higher level of competition, so comparing those kind of statistics may not be that valid.


Look, lets agree to disagree..... maybe that fight would be more competitive than I think, but I see Ward as being way too much for lil'G.

The question would be can Golovkin live with Ward, not the other way around.

[aboutfkntime]

You throw around casual fan like you think everyone who disagrees with you is a casual fan. Well I have a differing opinion and I've been consistently watching boxing since 1996. I don't think the word casual applies here.

For the record. I called MayPac an easy Decision for Mayweather.

As for Ward and GGG... I don't think many would argue with what you're saying about Ward. He is as well rounded as they come. He is a f***ing beautiful technician. He has enough power to keep chin checkers honest. Yet his pure boxing and athletic skills are on par with anyone in the sport.

What I'm saying is I think you underestimate GGG. He's a great boxer. Heavy handed. Uses the ring as well as anyone and can take clean hits from big hitters. You think Le Mew and Stevens flush right hands tickle?

I think Ward would and should be favoured. He's a bigger and faster guy. I just don't see it being an easy fight for him. I think GGG gives him hell and we see a war. Whichever guy could handle a tight war better wins.

Lemieux wouldn't touch Ward..... just saying

And, I don't think flush rights from Ward tickle either.

The main point to me is, Ward is likely the most well-rounded fighter in the game today, he has been in with a real high level of competition, and he adjusts on the fly...... and we haven't seen how Golovkin will fare against a truly world-class opponent.

The questions would be ALL on Golovkin, not on Ward.

Maybe Golovkin would be the fan favorite, but he would NOT be favored by the bookies.

[aboutfkntime]

You guys act like Rodriguez' comments are out-of-left-field.

EVERY fighter/trainer that I have heard interviewed on the subject, picked Ward over Golovkin..... with NO exception.

I haven't seen one single trainer pick Golovkin, and I don't think I have seen a top fighter pick Golovkin over Ward either.

Fans have a completely different perspective from fighters.

[Irony123]

1) disagree, Ward has every punch in the book..... but more importantly, his ringIQ/technique is far superior..... at using what you have effectively, Ward is the man

2) possibly true, but that more comes down to style, that is his game

3) I agree, but lets see how that power carries up

4) debatable, but irrelevant..... they both have enough stamina/workrate for their style..... Golovkins workrate will drop, just like Pacquiao's did, and for the exact same reason

5) I truly doubt it, Ward is a far superior technician.... you seem to forget, cutting off the ring is Golovkin's style, not Wards.... he should be good at it.

6) I seriously doubt it, and you can't pick just one fight. A couple of years back, Ward was 2nd to Mayweather on the compubox thrown/landed list..... but the main point is, Ward has fought a much higher level of competition, so comparing those kind of statistics may not be that valid.


Look, lets agree to disagree..... maybe that fight would be more competitive than I think, but I see Ward as being way too much for lil'G.

The question would be can Golovkin live with Ward, not the other way around.

sounds good to me, agree to disagree. Until the fight happens we will not know for sure, crossing my fingers and hope this fight takes place in 2017.

[UNBIASED BOXING]

You guys act like Rodriguez' comments are out-of-left-field.

EVERY fighter/trainer that I have heard interviewed on the subject, picked Ward over Golovkin..... with NO exception.

I haven't seen one single trainer pick Golovkin, and I don't think I have seen a top fighter pick Golovkin over Ward either.

Fans have a completely different perspective from fighters.

I like Golovkin more than Ward (and I don't dislike Ward at all), but what unbiased/knowledgeable boxing fan wouldn't favor Ward over Golovkin anyways? He has the physical advantages in weight, reach, and height over Golovkin, which of course make a big difference. Just look at what happened when Pacquiao/Marquez fought Mayweather. Floyd's style completely owns them.

Now imagine how Hearns vs Floyd would have looked.

[aboutfkntime]

sounds good to me, agree to disagree. Until the fight happens we will not know for sure, crossing my fingers and hope this fight takes place in 2017.

I think the horse has bolted on that fight.

I am hoping for Ward/Kovalev, and Golovkin/Canelo..... I think Ward/Kova will happen, not sure about GGG/Canelo..... but failing that I would love to see Gennady move to 168 when he has finished his business at 160.

[aboutfkntime]

I like Golovkin more than Ward (and I don't dislike Ward at all), but what unbiased/knowledgeable boxing fan wouldn't favor Ward over Golovkin anyways? He has the physical advantages in weight, reach, and height over Golovkin, which of course make a big difference. Just look at what happened when Pacquiao/Marquez fought Mayweather. Floyd's style completely owns them.

Now imagine how Hearns vs Floyd would have looked.

That's how I see it.

But the way I read it, on this site anyway..... Ward is a big underdog.

I suppose I should let sleeping dogs lie, that fight won't happen now.

But considering your point in bold, and also considering the circumstances surrounding the FAILURE to make that fight (excuses, cw demand, flat refusal in 25mins)..... it is a little difficult to fathom the comments indicating that Ward ducked Golovkin