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  • Fury4daWIN
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    #81
    Originally posted by Steve plunger
    Your blind dynamite...fury has no skill level...he is lumber some big foot who played mind games and won a pathetic and non boxing fight with a fighter who never showed up......your obsessed with tyson fury and I just don't understand what you see....lol....if your gonna get obsessed with a fighter do it with a Chico Gonzales or a sugar ray leonard....then I cant dispute your views...but fury do me a favour....if he gets past klitchko which I'm not sure he will...he will lose to a wilder ...he has no right being world champion and I'm not sure if it's some wind up by the boxing gods lol.....terrible technique ...terrible physique and just plain terrible .....your brain is damaged it must be
    Fury's going to continue to dominate the division and people like you will continue to be baffled. Have fun in 2016.

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    • D-MiZe
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      #82
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      Boxing behind a jab isn't necessarily over skilled but it's shown that Tyson has learned that and implemented it to his game because early in his career he had no jab. Now he has a good jab, that's done with skills. Earlier in his career his footwork was poor and he uncoordinated, now it's very good and smooth and coordinated, that's done by skills. The fact he's improved so drastically is predominantly down to his skills. Yeah ok, you can say When you think of Fury you don't think skills like a Mayweather or a Rigondeaux but I think that point is just weightless to be honest. You don't think "Kovalev" and immediately think "skills" but it would be ridiculous to say Kovalev isn't a very skilled fighter much like Tyson Fury is also.
      It's not so much how many times he was dropped, more so who dropped him and why/how - which I'm saying is because of poor defence. He wasn't dropped because he was hurt, he was dropped because he left himself wide open.

      I don't bother to mention the word 'skills' unless it's someone like Mayweather or Rigondeaux, I didn't mention it originally. It's so vague it could mean a number of things but I picked up on it in response to Dynamite who said;

      Fury is far beyond anyone currently in the division. It wasn't size that undone Klitschko, it was more the speed and skill.
      My argument is that it was his quick feet & hands plus 85 inch reach that made more of a difference then his 'skill'. That what makes Fury good is 80 physical, 20 skill where as you have boxers that are 30 physical, 70 skill.

      Fuck that word off anyway, we're both beating a dead horse with it.

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      • kiDynamite92
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        #83
        Bryant Jennings and Tony Thomson are two guys faster then WK and have a length advantage on him.

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        • The plunger man
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          #84
          Originally posted by kiDynamite92
          There's only a few guys that you would look at and think skills and that would be pure boxers like Rigondeaux, James Toney, Ezzard Charles, Hopkins and Mayweather to an extent but earlier in his career when I watched Mayweather I mostly thought speed, power and length. There was actually a thread in boxing history a few weeks ago which asked who was the most skilled fighter ever? I said Tomny Hearns but you can easily dismiss his skills because of the freakish physical advantages he has. In that case you would also have to dismiss a lot of other fighters who you would consider skill full but also have crazy physical advantages like Leonard, Ali, Robinson etc. No one would do that and we shouldn't be doing that to Tyson Fury.
          What physical advantages did Ray leonard have , he was 5ft 10 and 147 pounds with a 74 inch reach and a natural welterweight size...Hearns on the other hand was 6ft 1 1/2 147 pounds and had a 78 inch reach...that is physical advantages because he dwarfed every other welterweigh, leonard has God given sped and movement but it's not a physical advantage .....fury is a big guy at 6ft 8 or so and its been a long long time since klictcko was up against an unconventional fighter and the way fury boxed was nothing klitchko had seen before....but your making is sound it was a brilliant boxing display by fury lol....it was a farce and the fight was not even a fight....look I'm english and there would be nothing more I would like to say that fury boxed superb and he showed his Genuis ...but it wasn't it was shocking and your gonna be in for a rude awakening because fury will not remain champion for long.....I think your the idiot that actually considers fury a future great of the heavyweights...as I said before enjoy your time with fury because it's limited

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          • D-MiZe
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            #85
            Originally posted by kiDynamite92
            Bryant Jennings and Tony Thomson are two guys faster then WK and have a length advantage on him.
            Oh yea, I forgot about those two 6ft9 guys.

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              #86
              Originally posted by D-MiZe
              Oh yea, I forgot about those two 6ft9 guys.
              You selectively missed their 81.5 and 84 inch reach which is more then Klitschko.

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                #87
                Originally posted by kiDynamite92
                You selectively missed their 81.5 and 84 inch reach which is more then Klitschko.
                Not 85" doe.

                Also, I blatantly, obviously, clearly listed more things than reach.

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                • kiDynamite92
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Steve plunger
                  What physical advantages did Ray leonard have , he was 5ft 10 and 147 pounds with a 74 inch reach and a natural welterweight size...Hearns on the other hand was 6ft 1 1/2 147 pounds and had a 78 inch reach...that is physical advantages because he dwarfed every other welterweigh, leonard has God given sped and movement but it's not a physical advantage .....fury is a big guy at 6ft 8 or so and its been a long long time since klictcko was up against an unconventional fighter and the way fury boxed was nothing klitchko had seen before....but your making is sound it was a brilliant boxing display by fury lol....it was a farce and the fight was not even a fight....look I'm english and there would be nothing more I would like to say that fury boxed superb and he showed his Genuis ...but it wasn't it was shocking and your gonna be in for a rude awakening because fury will not remain champion for long.....I think your the idiot that actually considers fury a future great of the heavyweights...as I said before enjoy your time with fury because it's limited
                  Won't you **** off already. You're getting really annoying now and also don't call anyone an idiot when you don't know the difference between your and you're.

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                  • The plunger man
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Fury4daWIN
                    Fury's going to continue to dominate the division and people like you will continue to be baffled. Have fun in 2016.
                    Dominate the division lol...how is that ? He has just won one fight and he is still an unknown in terms of how he will cope with other challengers with different styles....you putting up your fan club on your page shows your not impartial and your actually the cheer leader......enjoy your membership this year...as for next year your gonna need to change fan clubs.....fury will get smashed to pieces by joshua .....it's coming....p.s thanks for the gift and when Joshua beats him it's nothing personal

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                    • kiDynamite92
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by D-MiZe
                      Not 85" doe.

                      Also, I blatantly, obviously, clearly listed more things than reach.
                      Yeah 1 more doe. So Jennings has 3 inches of length on Klitschko and is faster then him, by your logic he should have been able to keep Klitschko out of range and box him to a decision right?

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