Is Joshua the real deal?

[The plunger man]

He's already had plenty of experience against different styles. The fact you keep mentioning his getting knocked down and hurt is actually a great plus in his favour. We know Fury is the goods because of how he's reacted to that. Joshua just got his first chin check in his last fight, and while he reacted well, it remains to be seen how he does against a bonafide knockdown.

Fury I don't think your a bad geezer ...you rate fury I don't it happens...look joshua has not been knocked down and you will have to ask yourself who will be able to knock joshua down in reality....yeah it might a be massive shot by a contender but the contender is also gonna have to be in range of joshuas shots.....like it or not whyte is a decent power puncher who has knocked out most of his opponents and trust me when I say this Joshua took that left hook **** on the point of the chin coming forward....that was a monster shot because it was **** on target and he took it and came back almost instantly...if you look at the clip after joshua actually waves his glove at his chin and says bring it....the fact you have a lot of time for fury I respect that but it don't make me into a believer...I think it was in 1990 or 1991 I saw this fight on bbc between Gary mason who was 35 and 0 coming up against this not so well Olympic ex champion in lennox Lewis and bear in my mind LEWIS was a nobody and mason was the favourite ....after that fight finsihed I looked round to my dad and said this guy is gonna become a great world heavyweight champion...I knew it just by watching him...my mates said yeah sure f@ck off lol...low and behold LEWIS became in my eyes probably the greatest heavyweight of all time...and although I cannot see joshua being as great as LEWIS I still see him becoming something special...I am very seldom wrong when I see talent but of course that's just my view...my view is that joshua beats fury even now to be honest with you....but he's not inline yet so he will have to wait his turn and grow ...u like fury and fair play ..we will see...so you tried to make me a thief lol..

[Tom Cruise]

I'm not comparing him to anyone I'm talking in general. If I had to compare him to anyone it would be Frank Bruno but with less skills.

I completely disagree with almost every point you made.

I don't see any counter punching ability, he's certainly not quick IMO, not seen an inside game and defintely not an outside one. Seems to be like an aggressive fighter who walks you down and try's to blow you out, not seen any real head movement and he's very stiff and robotic.

That's my view. It's hard to judge his skill level or just general level at this point like I said the only part of his game I've seen that he made me think that was good is his punch. Nothing else has impressed me. You say his speed has impressed you it certainly has not impressed me.

Dan, do you see what im saying about AJ developing his countering game?

They arent perfect, but he is clearly working hard on them in the gym and pulling them off come fight night. The first KD in particular was beautiful, reminded me of a 244lb version of a Rigondeaux move.

Still has lots to work on im sure, but his dedication is paying off IMO, and im seeing improvements/new and refined skills pretty much every fight i see him in.

I reckon he will not fight the best this year, but hopefully we'll get a few tough, established contenders to see what he his really about.

[Ray*]

Dan, do you see what im saying about AJ developing his countering game?

They arent perfect, but he is clearly working hard on them in the gym and pulling them off come fight night. The first KD in particular was beautiful, reminded me of a 244lb version of a Rigondeaux move.

Still has lots to work on im sure, but his dedication is paying off IMO, and im seeing improvements/new and refined skills pretty much every fight i see him in.

I reckon he will not fight the best this year, but hopefully we'll get a few tough, established contenders to see what he his really about.

I think Joshua needs to ease up on the weightlifting, he needs to be more fluid if he wants to beat someone like Fury because at the moment he really does look and fight robotic, He certainly has power and he was a lot more calmer than he was in there against Whyte.

I know Fury said Joshua beat him up 6 years ago in sparring but Fury as come a longer way since then, he has learn to use his size advantage to win fights and this is one of the things Joshua would need to work on as he goes along his own journey.

One thing i like about Joshua is the fact that he himself recognise that he has a lot of work to do and like he said last night he is a quarter on his way through that journey.

[Tom Cruise]

I think Joshua needs to ease up on the weightlifting, he needs to be more fluid if he wants to beat someone like Fury because at the moment he really does look and fight robotic, He certainly has power and he was a lot more calmer than he was in there against Whyte.

I know Fury said Joshua beat him up 6 years ago in sparring but Fury as come a longer way since then, he has learn to use his size advantage to win fights and this is one of the things Joshua would need to work on as he goes along his own journey.

One thing i like about Joshua is the fact that he himself recognise that he has a lot of work to do and like he said last night he is a quarter on his way through that journey.

My big worry about Fury is consistency. His head is a strange place and im not convinced he can maintain the standard he set for himself in the WK fight. Hopefully he does.

I think pretty soon Joshua is going to be the favourite, but right now it has to be Fury's to loose. Joshua will not like the movement and length.

Joshua defo went too far on the body building. But that doesnt mean he cant still become a very good boxer, even if he doesnt have as high a ceiling as he once did.

[IronDanHamza]

Dan, do you see what im saying about AJ developing his countering game?

They arent perfect, but he is clearly working hard on them in the gym and pulling them off come fight night. The first KD in particular was beautiful, reminded me of a 244lb version of a Rigondeaux move.

Still has lots to work on im sure, but his dedication is paying off IMO, and im seeing improvements/new and refined skills pretty much every fight i see him in.

I reckon he will not fight the best this year, but hopefully we'll get a few tough, established contenders to see what he his really about.

Yeah I was impressed with those counter punches to be honest.

Perfect shots down the pipe not once but twice.

He looked good yesterday. Now to see how he does against the elite. If he can do that to Fury, Haye, Wilder, Parker, etc then I'll hold my hands up.

[Juof]

Still untested imo, but its not his fault these giys cant put up a better fight

[deathofaclown]

He's still a work in progress but he is the first to admit that, which is good.

There's still a lot we need to learn about him. Can he deal with pressure? does he have an inside game? can he cut off a ring if he has a mover in front of him? can he make adjustments if Plan A isn't working? - He did get rocked by Whyte and went stiff and looked tired for about 2 rounds before getting a second wind, i don't think a good accurate finisher like Haye would have let him off the hook.

So far so good in his career apart from a spell in the Whyte fight, but i'd need to see more sides to his game before saying he could compete with the top fighters. Maybe he has them, we just never had chance to see them yet.