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  • D-MiZe
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    #101
    Originally posted by Steve plunger
    I think the same....fury I think would get brutally stopped by wilder simply because he can punch from a distance and he throws in clusters...wilder won't need to get tangled up in the games fury plays ....joshua beats him simply because fury does not have the power to hurt him or the chin to survive Joshua's punches...if klitchko just lets his arms go and not waits then he can beat him but he is so programmed it's hard to get him to do different at this stage of his career...not sure about povetkin to be honest as he would need to get close to hurt fury..but Parker on current showing could upset fury because he has size and good movement
    I'll concede that on picking Povetkin it would have to be KO, cannot see him outboxing Fury like I could see Wilder and Joshua doing.

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    • The plunger man
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      #102
      Originally posted by kiDynamite92
      I wouldn't mind having a conversation with you if you use a bit of commonsense. You're the crackhead who keeps saying Joshua will be fury is a few years basing your arguments on speculation! How insane is that?! You call that knowledge? I call that insanity. You keep saying the same thing over and over like a broken record. Do you really believe SRL wasn't a big welter? How many top welters nowadays have SRL's physical presence?
      Let's not confuse welterweights with guys like mayweather,cotto,Pacquaio...each of them are not natural welterweights and have moved up from smaller weight weight classes Leonard was a natural welterweight the same as don curry, Ray robinson, Wilfredo benitez was also 5ft10, Vernon Forrest was 6ft 1, Milton mccrory was 6ft 1 ...no leonard never had physical advantages over welterweights because natural welterweights were Leonard's height ..in fact if ever there was a natural welte eight sugar ray leonard was it bongo..mayweather started at super feather,pacquaio flyweight,cotto lightweight,Oscar lightweight,mosley lightweight...I hope you understand there is a difference between a natural welterweight to a welterweight nowadays lol

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        #103
        I genuinely think he is getting UD'd or late TKO'd by the first world level boxer he fights. A motivated Chisora hands him a beating, even.

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        • The plunger man
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          #104
          Originally posted by sicko
          I think so!

          Like Larry X thread about fighters getting hurt and how they react to adversity can tell you a lot of about a fighter. We seen Joshua hurt and in trouble and the dude handles it well, recovered an destroyed his opponent

          Scary thing is that Joshua is only going to get better so by the time he reaches his Prime as a fighter he is going to be extremely hard to beat. Also was impressed with his ability to Cut The Ring off vs Kevin Johnson and Whyte, both have pretty good footwork for Heavyweights

          Yes he is a bit stiff but hey so was George Foreman but he has good footwork for his size and very fast hands
          Sicko at last some one who sees it with open eyes......your talking sense son and I like you....let's start a joshua fan club lol

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          • kiDynamite92
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            #105
            Originally posted by Steve plunger
            Let's not confuse welterweights with guys like mayweather,cotto,Pacquaio...each of them are not natural welterweights and have moved up from smaller weight weight classes Leonard was a natural welterweight the same as don curry, Ray robinson, Wilfredo benitez was also 5ft10, Vernon Forrest was 6ft 1, Milton mccrory was 6ft 1 ...no leonard never had physical advantages over welterweights because natural welterweights were Leonard's height ..in fact if ever there was a natural welte eight sugar ray leonard was it bongo..mayweather started at super feather,pacquaio flyweight,cotto lightweight,Oscar lightweight,mosley lightweight...I hope you understand there is a difference between a natural welterweight to a welterweight nowadays lol
            more bull****! A welterweight is a welterweight regardless of where they started, guys like Floyd, Pacquaio are welterweights nowadays and they cannot make the Jr welterweight division without going through hell. Their best weights may not have been welterweights but they are still welterweights now and they are the top of the division. The fact you can't come up with any welterweights today who are as big as SRL just showed how foolish you are and the only ones you came up with were guys considered big welterweights throughout history.

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              #106
              Originally posted by D-MiZe
              Here we go with the skill bollocks again...

              The fact of the matter is this;

              Klitschko fought tentatively against Fury and allowed Fury to execute his game plan of boxing behind the jab, pot shotting. Why was Wlad so intimidated, perhaps it was the size of Tyson Fury or his pre-fight antics. Perhaps he didn't expect a man that big to move like that and punch as quick as he does. Speculation but two things are for sure, Wlad fought tentatively and he has never fought someone as big as Fury. Your comparisons are weak and prove nothing.

              We'll agree to disagree, take your strawman with you.
              That's your option but ok we'll have to agree to disagree.

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              • The plunger man
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                #107
                Originally posted by kiDynamite92
                more bull****! A welterweight is a welterweight regardless of where they started, guys like Floyd, Pacquaio are welterweights nowadays and they cannot make the Jr welterweight division without going through hell. Their best weights may not have been welterweights but they are still welterweights now and they are the top of the division. The fact you can't come up with any welterweights today who are as big as SRL just showed how foolish you are and the only ones you came up with were guys considered big welterweights throughout history.
                You said leonard had a physical presence over other welterweights...don't change the subject.....Wilfredo benitez was 5ft 10 , thomas hearns was 6ft 1 , Larry bonds was 6ft 1, Bruce finch was 5ft 9, ayub kalule was 5ft 10 , Pete ranzany was 5ft 10, Randy shields 5ft 11, roberto Duran was a lightweight and he was 5'7 and hagler was a middlweight and had the physical advantage..so don't try and tell me leonard had the physical advantage over his opponents you f@ckwit and finally wil you admit your wrong lol...nexttttttttt

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                • The plunger man
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by kiDynamite92
                  more bull****! A welterweight is a welterweight regardless of where they started, guys like Floyd, Pacquaio are welterweights nowadays and they cannot make the Jr welterweight division without going through hell. Their best weights may not have been welterweights but they are still welterweights now and they are the top of the division. The fact you can't come up with any welterweights today who are as big as SRL just showed how foolish you are and the only ones you came up with were guys considered big welterweights throughout history.
                  You said Leonard held a physical advantage over his opponents....which I have proven you wrong again....your a ****in idiot and a word of advice to you...I know more in my left bollock than you could ever know sonny ...your lose everytime

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                  • Fury4daWIN
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Steve plunger
                    Dominate the division lol...how is that ? He has just won one fight and he is still an unknown in terms of how he will cope with other challengers with different styles....you putting up your fan club on your page shows your not impartial and your actually the cheer leader......enjoy your membership this year...as for next year your gonna need to change fan clubs.....fury will get smashed to pieces by joshua .....it's coming....p.s thanks for the gift and when Joshua beats him it's nothing personal
                    He's already had plenty of experience against different styles. The fact you keep mentioning his getting knocked down and hurt is actually a great plus in his favour. We know Fury is the goods because of how he's reacted to that. Joshua just got his first chin check in his last fight, and while he reacted well, it remains to be seen how he does against a bonafide knockdown.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Steve plunger
                      You said Leonard held a physical advantage over his opponents....which I have proven you wrong again....your a ****in idiot and a word of advice to you...I know more in my left bollock than you could ever know sonny ...your lose everytime
                      "Your" is the second person possessive adjective. The correct word to use is "you're" which is a contraction of you are.

                      Something to bear in mind next time you insult someone's intelligence.

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