GGG is not being ducked. Stop the B.S.

[mathed]

If he forced Canelo to do his mandatory in May 2016, I think Canelo would have just vacated.

After Cotto just vacated so he could avoid having to fight GGG should he have beaten Canelo, people still pretending like GGG not having opponents is his fault. If GGG forces the issue, these guys will just dump the belts which means that at some point, GGG will have all the belts but receive 0 credit because he didn't beat anyone to get them.

Now isn't this one of the main gripes that "Lil G" haters have with him? That he got his WBA title without fighting for it? Can you imagine if he was "gifted" the WBC title as well? Please, dudes would be lining up to crucify him yet, because he is doing everything in his power to make it so these champs fight him instead of vacating the title, people are still trying to crucify him for "chasing a payday".

LMAO, I mean, really? Which is it guys, do you want him to try and fight for the titles and beat the title holders in the ring or do you want him to just collect the belts without fighting? You can't have it both ways. If you want it both ways, you just want a reason to hate the guy and that is truth at the end of the day.

[Derranged]

Another GGG thread.... The detractors are more obsessed with him than his fan boys. Both sides are pathetic and repetitive threads should be deleted.

Anyway... The fighters who ducked him for sure were Sturm and Quillin.

Martinez could have fought him but decided to take on another potentially dangerous opponent for way more money (Chavez Jr, who turned out to be grossly overrated). Then he hurt his knee which never healed completely.

[kafkod]

I've got nothing against that. The point is he wants the belt as well as money. That's fine. Just don't say he's being ducked.

He wants both the belt and the money.

But so far, he hasn't been able to get his shot at both, because he's being ducked.

Is that really so difficult to comprehend?

[b00g13man]

He wants both the belt and the money.

But so far, he hasn't been able to get his shot at both, because he's being ducked.

Is that really so difficult to comprehend?

It doesn't work that way. If you're accepting money to step aside, you've done just that. Stepped aside.

[kafkod]

He wants both the belt and the money.

But so far, he hasn't been able to get his shot at both, because he's being ducked.

Is that really so difficult to comprehend?

It doesn't work that way. If you're accepting money to step aside, you've done just that. Stepped aside.

Obviously, the answer to my question is yes, it is so difficult for some people to comprehend.

[b00g13man]

Obviously, the answer to my question is yes, it is so difficult for some people to comprehend.

So you agree with me? Why bother with the conversation then?

[Citizen Koba]

It doesn't work that way. If you're accepting money to step aside, you've done just that. Stepped aside.

You're still on this? K2 want the belt and the Canelo $s and name attached to it. Canelos team have said the fight ain't happening next, so GGGs team have had to make a choice between, possibly (- we don't know what the WBC have said behind closed doors) just getting the belt now or accepting the step aside in the hope of getting the fight and the belt later.

It seems like you are perhaps deliberately confusing cause and effect - GGGs team ain't accepting the postponement in order to get the step aside $s, they're accepting the step aside $s because they have no choice but to accept the postponement if they want to retain the hope of the Canelo fight being made. As I've said before I suspect they are being naive, especially in the light of the Cotto step aside $ fiasco, but their reasoning is not exactly difficult to follow.

Unless you're still pushing the line that the step aside $s were K2s objective throughout, which is - as I mentioned before, certainly a hypothesis.

[b00g13man]

You're still on this? K2 want the belt and the Canelo $s and name attached to it. Canelos team have said the fight ain't happening next, so GGGs team have had to make a choice between, possibly (- we don't know what the WBC have said behind closed doors) just getting the belt now or accepting the step aside in the hope of getting the fight and the belt later.

It seems like you are perhaps deliberately confusing cause and effect - GGGs team ain't accepting the postponement in order to get the step aside $s, they're accepting the step aside $s because they have no choice but to accept the postponement if they want to retain the hope of the Canelo fight being made. As I've said before I suspect they are being naive, especially in the light of the Cotto step aside $ fiasco, but their reasoning is not exactly difficult to follow.

Unless you're still pushing the line that the step aside $s were K2s objective throughout, which is - as I mentioned before, certainly a hypothesis.

I don't know how to make it any easier for you to understand. Team GGG has stated that the belt is their target, and their actions have shown otherwise. We've agreed they want the belt and the money.

If you accept money to "step aside", you are not being ducked. You've agreed to "step aside". It really is that straightforward.

[brettWall]

After Cotto just vacated so he could avoid having to fight GGG should he have beaten Canelo, people still pretending like GGG not having opponents is his fault. If GGG forces the issue, these guys will just dump the belts which means that at some point, GGG will have all the belts but receive 0 credit because he didn't beat anyone to get them.

Now isn't this one of the main gripes that "Lil G" haters have with him? That he got his WBA title without fighting for it? Can you imagine if he was "gifted" the WBC title as well? Please, dudes would be lining up to crucify him yet, because he is doing everything in his power to make it so these champs fight him instead of vacating the title, people are still trying to crucify him for "chasing a payday".

LMAO, I mean, really? Which is it guys, do you want him to try and fight for the titles and beat the title holders in the ring or do you want him to just collect the belts without fighting? You can't have it both ways. If you want it both ways, you just want a reason to hate the guy and that is truth at the end of the day.

The hate can't let them think straight, bro. Nothing anyone can do about it. It is what it is.

[big_james10]

Every time his chance to fight for the belt has come up he has agreed to take money in order to avoid the fight. People automatically assume a champion would drop the belt to avoid fighting GGG. That's not true. That belt is important to them, that's why they offer him money in order to keep the belt while they fight for higher paydays. If GGG would reject the money and force the fight and they vacate then you can say he's being ducked. As of now he's accepting money in to not fight. He stepped aside for Daniel freakin Geal , a guy he'd already torched, and took money again to allow Cotto to fight Canelo and is about to take money again to allow Canelo to fight someone else. Why is GGG taking money to avoid fighting the champ when it's his turn?

Me: Do you want to fight me?

GGG: Yes

Me: Will you accept $800,000 to avoid fighting me?

GGG: Yes

Golovkin took the money from Cotto and is taking money from Alvarez because he has no other choice. If he had tried to force a fight with Cotto, Cotto would have dropped the WBC belt and fought Geale anyway. Golovkin would have ended up fighting Lemieux or someone of that caliber regardless.

The same thing applies to Alvarez. If he chose not to make the agreement that he made with Cotto, the WBC would have allowed Cotto to make three voluntary defenses anyway before they forced him to face Golovkin. Golovkin would have ended up fighting another stiff in his next fight regardless. This way, he is making a hell of a lot more money fighting stiffs.

As for the ducking situation, both Lara and Ward have offered to fight the guy who said he will fight anyone from 154 to 168. Golovkin has turned them both down. Golovkin's promoter recently told Carl Froch that he is no longer interestd in making a Froch/Golovin fight. Also, James Degale recently stated that he will go down to 160 to fight Golovkin. I seriously doubt that fight will ever happen either.

Just like Keith Thurman, GGG is only being ducked in the minds of his mindless fans.