Max Kellerman says Luis Ortiz has superior skills to Tyson Fury and would beat him

[Jewish-Reptile]

Saltier than a fisherman's finger.

Fat boy using PED's to cheat champ = Scott being 'Salty'

[therealpugilist]

Ortiz gives him a baptism fitting for a gypsy king


fury is a good fighter but he wont be champion very long if he gets in their with Joshua, Wilder or Ortiz


they are not gun shy 40 year olds

[The plunger man]

You really haven't seen a heavyweight catch a guy coming in, with an uppercut, since holyfield? Tyson fury has done it and won the fight that way...

Also, have you seen an active heavyweight pull off a faster pull-counter than fury? I'll eat my keyboard buttons T Y S O and N if you have.



Mr Fury has the skills, I just hope they're not nandrolone induced!...

You don't have a f@ckin clue what your talking about bongo

[Willy Wanker]

Title or no title to me he's a patty melt hold the onions on a hamburger bun. Not even rye bread worthy.

Was that a Teddy Atlas quote?

[Jewish-Reptile]

Proof that he's used PEDs, as of now?? No stories of allegations or investigations, I'd like proof please? I won't wait, cause you don't have any yet.

We could assert that because Wlad has postponed his last few fights he has been doping before and then flushing it out. No proof of injury. This is because it's a fact that Klitschko has consistently refused to volunteer for any additional testing beyond what is required of him by the organizations sanctioning the sport, as opposed to, for example, Pulev, who was tested 6 times a year before Klit. Sure I've got no proof, but it could be an allegation.

But nobody likes a guy that calls guilty before the evidence is shown. That shows an emotional conviction or agenda. hmmmmm... nothing to do with you making a fool of yourself with pre-fight predictions I suppose?

Matt Christie of Boxing News UK has confirmed Fury is under investigation and Sophie Ashcroft of UKAD is refusing to deny or confirm any doper is guilty until their appeal process has failed or been successful. That's enough proof for me, take into account the fight has been postponed on clearly a BS injury when Fury has been videoed jumping around on the proposed bad ankle I call double BS.

Believe what you like, as I will. If Fists of Fluff is found not guilty I'll deactivate my account, but I think we both know he's guilty.

[Redd Foxx]

You really haven't seen a heavyweight catch a guy coming in, with an uppercut, since holyfield? Tyson fury has done it and won the fight that way...

Also, have you seen an active heavyweight pull off a faster pull-counter than fury? I'll eat my keyboard buttons T Y S O and N if you have.



Mr Fury has the skills, I just hope they're not nandrolone induced!...

lol, this guy and his fantasies again....
After all that, you failed to discredit what I said. Great use of your time. If you want to pretend Tyson is a technical wizard by posting some gifs of him finishing off worn-down opponents who were no-hopers in the first place, you go for it. You're not fooling any educated boxing fans. I've followed Tyson for 5 years or so but I'm not going to make up lies about him just because I like him.

[Jewish-Reptile]

I said no stories of investigations please, so literally the first thing you say is:

"Matt Christie of Boxing News UK has confirmed Fury is under investigation"

Hope you listened better in school...

As I said, believe what you will. As my friend would say on here, "you're grasping at straw".

[Redd Foxx]

Matt Christie of Boxing News UK has confirmed Fury is under investigation and Sophie Ashcroft of UKAD is refusing to deny or confirm any doper is guilty until their appeal process has failed or been successful. That's enough proof for me, take into account the fight has been postponed on clearly a BS injury when Fury has been videoed jumping around on the proposed bad ankle I call double BS.

Believe what you like, as I will. If Fists of Fluff is found not guilty I'll deactivate my account, but I think we both know he's guilty.

Thx for that info at the top, I had not seen that reported yet.

BTW, hope you're joking about that deactivate part.

[Redd Foxx]

Who said I wanted to discredit what you said? You're defending yourself against an arguement that has only happened in your head. All I asked was if you seriously haven't seen a guy stop another guy coming in with an uppercut. Would you like the name of the fighter fury stopped or something? Very strange one you, arguing against something I haven't even said...

Then please stop quoting me, or ignore me altogether, if you're going to cry every time I stomp out your argument. What was your other account name? Trying to figure out what previous incarnation of obnoxiousness you were.
I don't mind people disagreeing but FFS, take the aggressive know-it-all BS down a notch. You don't know half as much as you think you do.

[soul_survivor]

Do you agree? I don't. I think Tyson Fury's boxing skills are at least equal to Luis Ortiz, probably better.

I disagree too, not because either guy is exceptionally skilled or under skilled but because Ortiz hasn't shown much beyond his power in all honesty. Jennings tagged him quite a bit but his chin and grit let him down (plus a weak stoppage).

fury has shown he has good hand speed and reflexes but hasn't shown much fundamentals outside of his jab.

So both guys have a lot to still prove in terms of pure skills.

Edit: Fury beats Ortiz.